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  • From the PR standpoint, I don’t think it’s worth it, and it’d be better to just leave it on reports.

    The problem is that we can’t rely on reports of DMs since lemmy doesn’t federate them to us.

    E.g.
    -> [email protected] makes a new account and sends harassment to [email protected]
    -> [email protected] reports the DMs from [email protected]
    -> We, the admins of programming.dev, do not see this report because lemmy does not federate the DM report and [email protected] can continue harassing others because we never find out about it.

    This isn’t just a theoretical, it happened just last month that one of our users (1 day old account) sent rape and death threats (which were reported), and we found out about it by pure chance when talking to admins from the other instance.

    And just to clarify, the tool only automatically monitors new accounts, i.e. accounts that are being registered today. If you account is more than a few weeks old, the tool doesn’t monitor any of your activity.


  • We’ll take the fact that you haven’t noticed much spam as a compliment.

    The most recent spam that we have seen is harassment/doxxing campaigns that target specific users. It’s not something the average user would notice as the harassment is often DMs or pings on random posts. That, and a ban evader with a recognisable writing style.

    As you pointed out, there is no monetary interest on our end. We are just volunteers looking to fix the blindpots in the moderation tools. We have no interest in needlessly censoring speech, and if you ever feel we moderate the instance too harshly, we are open to taking feedback. You can always check the modlog to see our activity. The guidelines for our moderation can be seen here.


  • We will have a review of how we write posts and follow up in the comments later today to make sure we are clearer in our communication, and that we don’t end up with 3 different admins chiming in on separate comments.

    I still don’t like it, but if you are disclosing it properly and you’re not offshoring the data that is monitored, that will earn you some goodwill.

    We try to always make pinned announcements when making notable changes to our operation to keep the community informed. Any changes, minor or major, that we believe our users would want to know, we will always post about here.

    It really sounds like Lemmy software is trailing behind on keeping up with the bots.

    Lemmy is trailing behind when it comes to moderation tools just in general, which is what that is forcing us to make our own tools to help with moderation.


    • We only monitor new users on our instance, the tool is written by the admin team and no personal data is sent out of the server. The tool operates on the server communicating directly with the lemmy database on the server.
    • Other instances have their methods I’m sure, we haven’t cooperated with any other instances with this tool. I’m sure there’s a spectrum of 100% pure manual moderation to a highly automated process.
    • The tool scans for typical patterns we see in the trolls. Some of the patterns I’m sure you can guess, such as using slurs or uploading images. The tool temporarily removes the content and pings the admin team so that we can manually verify the content and restore it.
    • No it’s a problem across the fediverse, it seems to be people being banned from various instances that creates new accounts to evade bans. We have seen harassment campaigns where the user creates new accounts on multiple instances and attacks the victim via comments and DMs before moving on to the next instance to repeat the harassment.
    • That would only fix the issue for the duration of new applications being closed.

    There isn’t anything new in regards to privacy with this move. We are just adding a tool to help flag content quicker, and we want to be transparent about out moderation. That’s why we made our admin guidelines public.



  • c/die_reklame has been set to hidden by an admin due to being a community primarily driven by a bot, but it seems like it wasn’t added to the public hidden communities list. That’s our mistake, we will update the list to show it as hidden.

    Hiding communities isn’t something done by moderators, it’s something we do at an admin level according to our instance’s policy.








  • It’s not helping if some bitch on her menstrual cycle comes and spams her keyboard without any valid points

    You’ve already previously been given warning for breaching our Code of Conduct section 3.5 (Hate Speech: Do not make remarks directed at sex, gender…). This is your third strike within 2 months and your account is now at risk of receiving a permanent ban if further breaches are made within 365 days.

    Since this is strike 3, your account will be given a 14 days site-wide temporary ban.

    - The programming.dev community team






  • The intention of requiring a 3rd party to act as a moderator is to avoid mod abuse from the blog author such as deleting comments or banning people for unreasonable reasons. E.g. someone correcting an error in a blog post and then having their comment deleted and banned by the author in retaliation.

    Ideally Lemmy would have more granular level of mod authorisation so that we could just remove access to deleting and banning people.

    If someone makes a non-relevant post in the community, it would be removed. If it becomes a recurring problem, we can look into automating that process.