Wow…
Is there some kind of tech CEO competition running or something?
“Who can alienate their user base the fastest”
There’s a saying, " never attribute to malice what is easily explained by incompetence".
But we’re quickly reaching the point where it’s no longer easily explained incompetence. Elon is either the most incompetent person in the known universe, which is saying a lot, or he’s doing this on purpose for some reason.
I’m not into conspiracies, but it’s starting to make more sense if he’s actively trying to tank the stock.
He just wants everyone to be exposed to his right-wing buddies toxic posts.
Yup, he gets a hard-on by exposing people to the “fash n friends” crap.
There’s no stock to tank. You could argue that he’s trying to tank the company, but there are easier ways to do that.
You could argue that he’s trying to tank the company
I’m kinda lost here. What’s his end goal with it?
Depriving the libs of a favored platform via making it conservative and unruly, and weakening its democratic potential against authoritarian states like Saudi Arabia, is the theory.
Yes there are, but he’s already with the SEC breathing on his neck for other scams so I guess he wants plausible deniability.
There’s no stock or similar security, so the SEC doesn’t care at all. Could be a plausible deniability thing, I just think it’s more likely that he really is that dumb, given the stories about Tesla/SpaceX having teams that basically existed just to control him.
I mean, 2024 isn’t that far away. It’s pretty clear who he’s pandering to in the name of “free speech” or “townsquare of the internet” or whatever shitty rationalization he uses to explains his nutty behavior.
Once upon a time, long ago, in the very beginning, I liked Twitter as a stream of instant information from all POV. Then Twitter became a haven for bots and a propaganda tool. Is it possible that Musk bought Twitter so that he could take it to the point of absurdity and destroy it?
For real! He’s trying to tank Twitter.
Elon trying not to make the worst decisions possible challenge (Impossible)
Doesn’t he himself use this feature a ton? 😂
I’m gonna take a wild guess and say it won’t apply to him.
Or if it does then he’ll just delete accounts he wants to block.
How in the world is that a good idea…
I am very glad I left Twitter at the beginning of Musk’s rein. This is just dangerous.
I quit Twitter after the infantile incident with Elon Musk carrying a sink around his own office. From all that we’ve seen in recent years it’s pretty clear he’s lucky to have been born rich, because he definitely isn’t the visionary we thought he was.
Yup. Every once in a blue moon I wish I still had my Twitter. But not enough to make a new one.
I missed this incident, I quit years before…
I made my first ever Twitter account a month or two before Musk bought it, for purely NSFW reasons. I’d log in every couple weeks or whatever, handle my business, and move along. After he bought it, I said whatever I’m not doing anything useful data wise so I’ll continue my few times a month visits.
First post-Musk visit, it’s fine. Business handled, close my incog window, move on.
Second post-Musk visit, I log in, and it’s CP as far as the eye can see. I immediately deleted my account.
Holy hell, on a serious country the government would go scorched earth on Twitter’s servers and sue tf outta Musk
Ayyyy Elon, so we’re going for full chaos??
Lemme grab my popcorn before the change starts a nuclear reaction.
Surely a sight to behold. Lol
4channers are gonna abuse the hell out of this for some fun. Can guarantee it.
Perhaps enough to force Twitter to take action and fix it? 4chan could be a force for good…
I mean, maybe? 4channers do some pretty crazy shit when they’re raiding, at least from what I’ve seen. Remember when they raided Microsoft Tay’s Twitter and turned it into a white supremacist?
Correction: Twitter is removing the block feature so that tweets can reach the full audience…
how is this a good idea? Even lemmy has a “block” feature on like day 1
Day 1 lol. Lemmy have been in development for more than 3 years. It’s just now that reddit got to suck even more lemmy and other alternatives got their opportunity.
Time to promote the hell out of Mastodon
@Hypersapien This could make his decision a wonderful backfire
Imagine posting something like:
You can’t block this post, can you? You could if you’d joined [mastodon instance]. [then continue with a few words about the instance in question]. It is part of the decentralized platform called Mastodon, where you can reach millions of other real people both on this and other similar servers of the network. Sign up by [provides steps to sign up]
Edit: same can be done with Calckey for example, but with no need to promote a special server, since Calckey doesn’t force you to sign to it’s main server through any of the apps iirc
I am 100% on board with this.
@Transwithvans Server admins now be like:
I won’t lie. As much as i hate Elon. Him buying (and destroying Twitter) is the single greatest thing that has happened for the fediverse and its growth.
I think we need something like that for twitter and for Reddit. Having something quick and concise with some links where to go is bound to get more bound headed our way
@lohrun sadly I don’t think spez is that stupid to fuck every little thing up from a social network, all at once almost. Sure, I think you can buy some ad space on Reddit, but imo there’s nothing too evident for this to be easy peasy.
Not to mention, Mastodon was already larger than Lemmy when the crisis point happened (the other two contenders, kbin - which is still in beta - and Lotide, are even smaller!). Maybe convincing the sub admins to try to be admins of communities and see how it goes? (Except that there are multiple communities here on the same topic, but on different instances - again, not sure how this is gonna work out)
I just can’t get over how uncatchy that name is though
It’s a good name for a metal band…
Oh wait… it is!
Elon Musk is a gaping, farting anus. I pay as much attention to the sounds from a gaping, farting anus, as I do from him.
Kind of rude. Farts can be funny, and they don’t deserve to be disparaged like this.
Very true. I take back the bit about the farting anus.
it’s unavoidable to center Elon here but can we just take a step back and appreciate how stupid, bad, and completely antithetical to a usable website this idea is? blocking has been a feature on like everything since phpBB forums because it literally just works. it’s an easy way to curate your experience without escalating and it’s a logical imitation of being able to simply avoid a person in real life. the idea of removing this in favor of nothing but mutes is just goofy as fuck (and if you make muting the new “block”, what’s even the difference between them? people will just use them basically the same way!).
Muting means other people can still comment on your stuff, and everyone else but you can see it.
Its so transphobes and homophobes can continue commenting on LGBT people’s content.
Elon Musk really fucking hates his trans daughter. Dad of the century, right here.
Seriously good on his daughter for dropping his scumbag ass. She deserves far better from a parent.
I wasn’t aware he had more children than the one with the weird-ass name. The private life section on wikipedia is a ride…
He ascribes to Longtermism and like his associate Jeffery Epstein, he thinks his genes are magically special, and so he wants as many offspring as humanly possible: while not actually giving one shit about the quality of life for any of them.
It’s really interesting, because he fucking hates his own father (Errol is also a creep who fathered a child with his step-daughter, who he raised from childhood), but can’t put together that he is exactly the fuck the same as his creep ass father.
Lemmy’s “block” is essentially a “mute” function, too. It makes it so that you don’t see any more content from a user, but they can still make comments on your stuff.
It’s interesting to me that they made the argument that blocking is increasing server costs.
- How is that even possible, on a technical level?
- If true, how is changing to a “stronger mute” going to reduce said costs?
I mean, it’s plainly clear that Musk has no idea what is going on at any of his companies and the narrative of him being a genius of some kind was simply that: a narrative.
Pre Twitter takeover this would have been surprising. Now seems par for the course.
With Mastodon as a strong alternative I really don’t understand why people use twitter at all anymore. There have been so many negative changes that have happened to twitter over the past 2 years.
95% of the people or groups I would want to follow are not on Mastodon.
And frankly, the Fediverse isn’t as user-friendly. It is a but tougher when you have to choose an instance, as well as learn how to follow from other instances.
And frankly, the Fediverse isn’t as user-friendly
One component of a system being “user-friendly” is that it must not sabotage or undermine the user on behalf of the system’s proprietor.
Unfortunately, this means that proprietary systems rarely remain user-friendly forever, as most proprietors eventually want to sabotage the user in some way or another, and can rarely resist the temptation forever.
Mastodon has a long way to go in the onboarding experience. Most non-technical Twitter users simply will not engage with Mastodon in its current form.
Mastodon right now reminds me of email before web-based services. It’s not friendly enough to pull in the “normies”. It needs a Gmail.
Pick an instance and sign up. I don’t understand this take. Its literally the same as email and we all managed to figure that out when we were 9-11 years old.
Tell me you’ve never worked in tech support without telling me you’ve never worked in tech support.
@legion @TendieMaster69 Are you onboarding using the browser or using the official #Mastodon app? Onboarding online is a lot more understandable than onboarding in the app IIRC
In the browser. It’s not confusing to me, but I’m a software developer. Millions of Twitter users aren’t going to make it past the server selection step. And many that do are going to be confused when they click to Follow someone and get a weird popup (because that someone is on a different Mastodon instance) instead of instantly following the person.
It’s nowhere close to a smooth enough experience for the lion’s share of Twitter users to transition over. I think people that are used to even slightly technical things vastly overestimate what the average end user is capable of handling. These are the people that ask for help to plug in an HDMI cable.
It was simple for me personally, but I guess I’m a more advanced internet enjoyer?
- went to https://joinmastodon.org/
- clicked “create account”
- went to c.im
- then to https://c.im/auth/sign_up
- accepted agreement
- created account
- became mastodon enjoyer
I think people are intimidated by step 3. Don’t ask me why, but for a certain type of web user, it’s an absolute deal breaker for some reason.
Tbh it’s capitalism. It teaches people to be afraid of choices, and to just take what the corporation is handing them. It’s… disconcerting how pervasive this kind of convenience culture has become and what kind of effect it’s having on people’s lives
Fedi doesn’t have an onboarding problem, people have a capitalism problem
that is an interesting point. when people are confronted with the choice of where to store their data, they just nope out
On one hand, Twitter lost 5% of its user base. It’s not a ton. On the other, it’s 15 million people give or take. That 5% is probably the sort I want to hang out with the most. Likewise for Reddit. 5% of Redditors are awesome and likely now Lemmy/KBin users. Those are the people I care about. It also allows for more quality connections when you have fewer people in your circle. Close connections are more valuable than more connections.
undefined> Close connections are more valuable than more connections.
It depends. Close connections of subject matter experts when discussing technical topics? Sure. When doing general research or looking for alternate solutions for something, you need mass. The difficulty of onboarding users into a federated environment hinders this.
I meant from social connections not technical experts. Frankly social media isn’t the place to get technical answers. It’s typically not great and most of the time is a hive mind mentality. Even on Reddit or stack exchange. I’ve seen decades of questions in my field and the answers with the most points are the ones that match the general hive mind not actual facts. It’s typically not worth it to get answers from social media.
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The Mastodon culture just isn’t there yet. And it’s a bit of work to actually use. Plus “toots” sounds even more stupid than “tweets” and I’m not sure it will ever really take off.
This reminds me of the recent Behind the Bastards episodes where Robert reads the court filings of fired Twitter employees who continuously refer to themselves as Tweeps. At Mastadon they’d probably call themselves Tooters.
Toots is no longer the official term, which has been replaced by “Posts”. Toots was always mostly a joke anyway
This is major news. I really hated that word.
To be honest, there was years of backlash to the “tweeting” and “googling” but both made it into the lexicon. However it’s smart of Mastodon to just move to a normal terminology
A normal terminology also helps when explaining the concept of federating with other platforms, imagine saying: “When you join a pod, you can then send toots that can be seen by people in different magazines, even if they’re on different platforms!”
I mixed the terminology of some 3 or 4 federated platforms to give an egregious example, but it helps drive the point. If we have a standard (the ActivePub) we can very well have a standard nomenclature for each feature.
I’ve built up a community of folk on there, not all of whom have moved to Mastodon. They’re the only people keeping me on there to be honest. I crosspost between the two for the time being
Elongated Muskrat has discovered just how many accounts are blocking him. His ego can’t take that. His FrEeSpEeCh must be heard
My account isn’t blocking him.
At least, not since I deleted it. And stopped visiting Twitter.
Oh no please, not the nicknames. Can we leave them?
Nothing makes me cringe harder than the childish nicknames everybody keeps coming up with. Elongated Muskrat isn’t funny or offensive.
Calling his sycophants Muskrats is appropriate though.
I’m skeptical of this, maybe it’s because he’s worried his fascist followers are slowly falling into an echo chamber cause anyone with more than a few braincells blocks them
