right now I’m trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS, treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.
i need it to be remotely controllable, it’d be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?
I’ve dabbled with the “____sonic” ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.
just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!
thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.
(oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)
My problem is that I cannot find a selfhosting solution that has the nuts to spool up 80k+ hi-res, original sourced, flac files that reside on two 10TB drives through my ancient technology. MusicBee is the closest thing I’ve come across, but that is local, and it struggles. I stay around the compound now days so local is ok, but it would be nice to stream out on the back porch without cranking my stereo to 11 so I can hear. I have bluetooth options but range is an issue.
if you can, don’t be afraid to pull some wires! i come from a low-voltage background, and am getting ready to run some cabling for distributed audio.
found some old control4 gear that can be controlled directly from Home Assistant, no control4 processor required!
Hello fellow hass/mass user. Also, what sort of low voltage?
Fire/security alarms? Or access control? (Or both)?
I do both, as well as CCTV.
oh lawd i am glad to meet another out in the wild!
i was fortunate to start with residential alarm and A/V. due to a talent vacuum, leapfrogged to control system programmer/service, which allowed a few forks in the road (service manager, project manager and sales,) before bringing me back to my primary passion in this industry, AV programming and design.
but yeah I’ve installed my fair share of alarm panels, access control, thousands of camera systems.
but most of my shit has been fixing old rich people’s wifi and kids/grandkids AV
Try Ampache! I host 75k files with it.
emby and shares. emby unlike jellyfish can mount remote smb shares right in the webinterface. proxmox/lxc and jellyfin is a pain in the ass you do not want.
that was a big choke point for me for a while also!
i keep this in my linkwarden!
thanks. but am i blind or are they just giving up on getting in run in docker in lxc on proxmox?
“No clue about how to do it through docker in an LXC.”
it was a big choke point? that thread alone says dont use jellyfin.
Hosted with Jellyfin, for clients I use Symfonium on Android and Feishin on desktop.
https://biggaybunny.tumblr.com/post/166787080920/tech-enthusiasts-everything-in-my-house-is-wired
I just have a bunch of media files (.ogg, .mp3, etc.) in directories and play them with mplayer from the command line. Playlist = shell script that plays some group of files. I use old school track numbering (01-whatever, 02-whatsit, etc.) though, so most of the time “mplayer *” is how I play an album and the tracks play automatically in the right order. I don’t understand the purpose of anything fancier. Now get off my lawn.
@solrize @SidewaysHighways @selfhosted this is a sad, boomer take, is not even funny.
I just don’t get it, I’ve seen people struggle with itunes, that stuff is way too complicated and I don’t see any need for it. Maybe I’m missing something but if I want to play some music and it’s in a file, saying “play this file” seems about as direct as it gets.
@solrize @selfhosted assuming you have the file in the same machine you want to listen to it, and you are the only one who wants to access it, sure that is fine
Sometimes they are on a remote server that I sshfs mount and play the same way. Multiple people could use the server at the same time if desired, though for me it hasn’t been an issue. It’s audio, I don’t need a visual UI for it. I still have a fair amount of physical media too including LP’s, though my record player is long gone.
Anyway, be happy that I didn’t mention FORTH :).
I host my media on a bookshelf and play it through a stereo
Plex + Synfonium
Also
Navidrome + Synfonium / Tempo
I’m trying out different things in prep to switch to navidrome. I’m impressed how lightweight it is and it hasnt required much work to fix up the library tags as most were already minimally tagged.
One I figure out a secure way to expose it behind auth I’ll be able to switch over.
Its been a heck of a time trying to get forwardAuth working with Zitadel so I’m trying out Authelia
I’ll second navidrome.
I’ve also added bonob to expose it to some sonos hardware I got for free. I’ve found it’s the easiest way to get custom music and streaming radio into sonos. Music Assistant buffers for some reason.
I’m having the same issues with exposing it. I have mine behind Caddy+caddy-security and it works well through the browser, but I haven’t found a native app that can handle that method. I think I’ll add it to tailscale eventually to work around that.
What I am hoping is that I can generate an access key auth in Authelia. Synfonium supports accessKey as an alternative to basic auth for subsonic.
Maybe you could try that with caddy-security?
Synfonium is closed source, but you can use the free trial to test, and buy it outside of Google Play (which is the only reason I haven’t dropped it earlier on my quest to de-Google)
I’ve just put it on an SMB share and use symfonium
I just torrent the sht out of it. And put it on a USB stick. And plug it into my car. That’s it.
old school. tried and true. network agnostic. love it!
I picked up a Denon DNP-730AE network audio player on ebay and I run Tiny-DLNA on my server where the music files and playlists are stored.
Works great and sounds great.
Plex and PlexAmp
It’s unpopular around here, but Plexamp is fantastic.
Completely agree. I paid for Symfonium after seeing a lot of people on here raving about it but I still ended up back with Plexamp. I’d be curious to hear what people find other apps do better than plexamp.
The other apps don’t harvest my data, for one
What did you dislike about synfonium? I’m considering switching since I don’t have a plex subscription anyway so I did not get to enjoy the sonic analysis featured etc.
I can’t say there was anything that I really disliked about it, I actually really liked the app overall but I’ve been using Plexamp since basically the first public release so that just feels a bit more familiar. Plus I heavily use the sonic analysis features which I don’t believe exist outside of plexamp (please someone tell me if I’m wrong here).
I like using rygel currently, just run it by command line and media folders are available over the network. Any device with VLC can see it on the network and play.
I share a Spotify family plan with friends, but I use Zotify to make backups, which I then host in Jellyfin.
Server: Gonic
Clients: Strawberry on linux/android, DSub on Android, Amperfy on iPad/macOS
~200 000, mainly flac, accessible everywhere
Gonic
Wow, I thought I had a large music collection. I mean, I can put the whole 80k on random and it will be months before I hear a repeat. 200k you’d hear a song and then maybe on your 80th birthday hear it repeat. LOL The larger majority of my songs are from Indie groups I used to promo.
I checked out Gonic.
I’ll have to try DSub(2000), looks pretty nice. I’ve been using Ultrasonic. I do like that Ultrasonic allows you to browse cached files as if they were their own server, which DSub doesn’t seem to do.
DSub does
Only DSub or DSub 2000 as well? The former doesn’t look like it’s been updated in 3 years+Nevermind, I found it. You have to hit “go offline”.
I use DSub, the original. (I didn’t even know DSub 2000 was a thing, I use F-Droid)
Subsonic doesn’t change, it doesn’t need updates
Wait. There’s a strawberry for Android? I use it on my PC…
Typo, I meant linux/Windows
Strawberry doesn’t have android release, does it?
local storage server as a backup and to download my music to my devices (ik jellyfin is better then this but i already had the storage set up)
Emby. It is so far, the nicest music client on iOS that I’ve been able to find.
Howdy Fellow Emby user!
i did like using emby for music and podcasts, but i was always perturbed by having to dig through the emby app to get to music. i tried using a different profile for music only but then got annoyed at having to swap back and forth.
so at the crib, are you airplaying from your phone? what’s your audio pipeline look like?
I’m just using the app. I think it’s the nicest, most functional, and best looking music app outside of PlexAmp… however I absolutely agree with you that I really really wish it was just its own app… you can make this easier on yourself by editing the quick bar at the bottom of the app. When I open the Emby app it’s one tap to get to the music and then at least I don’t have to “dig through” it to get there.
I have an AppleTV4k Hooked up to my tv and 5.1 sound system so I can Airplay to that with my iPhone. Same goes for my HomePod in the kitchen when I’m cooking. If you’re not on iOS you can also cast to any device with an Emby app but there is less flexibility there.
I am in the same boat as you in that I’d love a dedicated app, I’m just waiting for one to come along that doesn’t suck. The FinAmp project had gotten me excited since it was ostensibly Jellyfin’s take on PlexAmp but it looks god awful and the functionality isn’t there. They have a beta version that’s a complete redesign but it also sucks terribly in my opinion.
Since you mentioned podcasts, AudioBookShelf as a back end with the “ShelfPlayer” app on iOS has been phenomenal. The ShelfPlayer app even works with my Oauth connection which is so awesome. Wish Emby or Jellyfin did that lol.
All my music is stored in a folder on my NAS, broken down by artist, release. It can be accessed via SMB, SFTP, Jellyfin and Plex. From there I stream to what ever device I’m using. Wireguard, Tailscale or Plex is required to stream outside my home. Navidrome sounds interesting.
