Yeah I’m not very familiar with the android landscape since everything that’s not GrapheneOS is a total shitshow. Sounds like app optimization may be less of a concern than I anticipated, that’s great

Nah it’s more like a toaster fridge

We’ll see what happens long term but they will be unaffected by the September changes.

I’m sure it’ll go pretty well on GrapheneOS

Actually…

https://www.androidauthority.com/run-desktop-linux-apps-on-android-how-to-3586539/

There are a lot of assumptions baked into everything you’re saying. It’s really not that deep. Google Pixels make up a tiny fraction of total mobile market share. This isn’t the start of some doomsday scenario where the only computers available are Google Pixels. You’re allowed to buy what you want. I need a phone anyway. All of them are kinda shit from an openness/repairability standpoint. And personally I’d rather have one device than two if I can.

relying on a country that doles out sanctions and bombings like it’s parking tickets.

This is a much larger issue that has little to do with anything we’re talking about

locked down further this year to allow only google-sanctioned software

This does not apply to GrapheneOS, which again you are allowed to install to these devices. Plus they allow use of the linux terminal which people have been experimenting with to run full linux apps (https://www.androidauthority.com/run-desktop-linux-apps-on-android-how-to-3586539/)

locked down

How? They allow users to install 3rd party ROMs and GrapheneOS

unrepairable

They’re not the best, but far from the worst. I’ve done multiple repairs on mine without much issue. There are first party parts and guides available on iFixit.

us company

I guess?

aids in war and surveillance!

You’d be hard pressed to find a manufacturer that doesn’t

This feature is a positive change. Enabling people to minimize the number of devices they need has the potential to significantly reduce the amount of ewaste people generate, and makes desktop features more accessible to people who can’t afford multiple devices.

Any apps that are available on Android can be used with desktop mode, including Collabora and OnlyOffice. I assume there will be variable levels of optimization though since this is still so new.

Edit: Forgot to mention that you should also be able to run linux apps https://www.androidauthority.com/run-desktop-linux-apps-on-android-how-to-3586539/

It does in fact work with GOS. I don’t believe this build has been released yet though so you likely still need to toggle it on in the dev settings.

My guy if you use that phone for anything remotely sensitive you should get a new one. It hasn’t received security updates in over 2 years. The 8a is about $200 refurbished with 6 more years of updates and you won’t notice the bump if you use a case.

It was announced a while ago https://www.androidauthority.com/graphene-os-major-android-oem-partnership-3606853/

HW is mid at best and overpriced

GOS has strict security requirements and so far Pixels have been the only devices out there that both allow GOS installation and meet their security requirements. Simple as.

Personally apart from repairability, I see very little meaningful difference in phone hardware these days. And a series Pixels are very reasonably priced.

Unfortunately the first device from this partnership is unlikely to be cheaper than the a series Pixel lineup. The GrapheneOS team already confirmed it will have a flagship snapdragon SOC. Have you looked into used a series Pixel devices? The 8a can be had refurbished in the low $200 range, and it will have software support for 5 more years. The 9a can be had for about $250 and will receive 6 more years of updates.

GOS already confirmed it’s shipping with a flagship snapdragon SOC so it won’t be a budget device. Maybe a future model though.

I think most of those other features are a long shot as well. The GOS team hasn’t really specified any preferences for non-security related features and I doubt Motorola would suddenly change their hardware design/direction.

https://gg.deals/ is pretty nice for PC games at least

Where does it say that specifically?

See the row labeled “degoogling”

According to e/os themselves, it is degoogled…

Sorry but they are liars. The only truly degoogled android OSs are GrapheneOS and the experimental mobile linux ones.

I really wish these alternative OSs were more truthful in how they portray themselves. They might not be terrible options for certain people and they might have good intentions but the dishonesty really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. There are so many who are misled.

Calls home to Google constantly ootb https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

By using /e/ os you are supporting google because /e/ os is not degoogled

/e/ os is not degoogled

porting the google number requires a phone plan w carrier; but i only use prepaid accounts between multiple carriers that change roughly every 6 to 12 months or so, depending on the price and whether or not they’ll support the unlock phones that i buy online. also: my current carrier will not accept a google voice number per their technical support people.

Why not just switch to another VoIP provider like jmp.chat then?

and those companies rely on some sort of multi factor authentication and my experiences with forwarding teaches me that the forwarding doesn’t always go through in a timely enough manner.

I guess. I’ve never had any issue personally