“These re-interviews are consequential,” a leaked email seen by 404 Media reads.
  • hansolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
    14·
    2 days ago

    If you read the Proton response to this article, it actually does seem like trying to figure out what’s going on with business process in a big picture way. Senior managers are interviewing, too. Not all staff are interviewing.

    Personally, I think it’s just as much about seeing who can’t QC the slop out off their code as anything else. Maybe. Or maybe I’m wrong, I dunno.

      • hansolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
        42·
        2 days ago

        Imagine being so disillusioned with the world that you assume that no one can have an opinion and think critically about two opposing views without it necessarily being some corporate brand fanboy bullshit.

          • hansolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
            13·
            2 days ago

            Yeah, was that supposed to be profound or something?

            As the 1% that actually pays, I’m invested in them succeeding and not enshittifying so I don’t have to take the time to move my email hosting. End of story. I have my own email domain, so I can kick them to the curb any day I like. And expect to have to one day.

            Did you need to complain about it some more? Does baby need a Binky? Or did you only ever use the free thing and it didn’t meet your expectations of what free things should be? Sorry your free thing wasn’t spectacular enough :(

              • hansolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
                1·
                1 day ago

                Knew what? That someone doesn’t want the thing they pay for to get enshittified? That it’s smart to make plans to not let any company control how you communicate?

                Wow. Such insight.

                • Doomsider@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  10 hours ago

                  That you were a paying customer hence your rabid defense of a garbage company. Every time I get massive pushback it is always someone that has bought into the security theatre corporate solution that they sell.

                  I am sorry you continue to give them money. Take care!

                  • hansolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
                    1·
                    9 hours ago

                    Rabid? Defense?

                    Do you even English? Where’s the rabid defense, exactly? Show me the exact words.

        • Doomsider@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          No, they have a for profit company and a nonprofit entity that is a major shareholder. They operate just like a corporation with all the typical warts.

    • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
      32·
      2 days ago

      How about don’t use AI to begin with so you won’t have to weed anyone out due to “potential slop”.

      Edit: this is in response to the parent comment, not to Proton…

      • hansolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        If you haven’t used it professionally, LLMs can and do provide huge help. Making this a specially all or nothing argument only highlights a knowledge and experience gap on the part of someone making that argument.

        Buuuuut, only an idiot asks for anything better than a starting point or a check of existing work. People relying on it to produce whole cloth work is for hobbyists and sloppers that don’t care or know any better.

        You ask why they need to use LLMs at all, and they host their own, Lumo. What clear, financially solid argument can you make that LLMs are an objective net negative to every company? If they see benefits from a headstart on coding and ability to test their security, why demand they take that away when no human code is 100% perfect anyway?

        • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 day ago

          I haven’t used it professionally, but I still know they provide huge help. It’s no secret. But my statement was simply following the logic of the previous commenter, who was saying that Proton are trying to weed out the people who aren’t able to QC out the slop. But if you are in need of QC to remove the slop, you are probably overdosing on agentic coding to begin with.

          Anyway, “only an idiot asks for anything better than a starting point”, sure, definitely agree. But what percentage of being a professional developer at a company involves prototyping something new, and doing “starting points”? Most development is just tacking on new shit to old shit. Clamping shit together with other shit. I guess that’s the issue?, which causes people to still use AI because they are pretty much forced to, sometimes literally, and so actually do ask for more than just a starting point. And then here we are…

      • Reygle@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        2 days ago

        I fear you may misunderstand their goal here- direct quote:

        “We need people who can translate AI’s capabilities into better products, stronger execution, and new ways of working — and who approach this change with curiosity, judgment, and urgency,” the email reads.

        They specifically want to “weed out” the ones who ARE NOT using AI