Why are people preordering a DIGITAL, BETHESDA game?! It’s still the Creation Engine (Creation Engine 2 so hopefully they fixed it!) so it’s probably gonna be a buggy mess at release.
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Why are people preordering a DIGITAL, BETHESDA game?! It’s still the Creation Engine (Creation Engine 2 so hopefully they fixed it!) so it’s probably gonna be a buggy mess at release.
Unlike most online gaming communities, there are many people in the world that enjoy playing video games. So, when they see a game that looks fun to play, they buy it or pre-order it.
I love how you imply people here don’t enjoy playing videogames, when in reality we do, we just expect a 70 dollar product to fucking work.
What you’re describing is called being a “consumer whore” and is the #1 reason unregulated capitalism will always lead to our demise. Consumers are morons and will willingly pay full price for some broken loot box addled bullshit because they didn’t learn from the last fifteen times they got burned when preordering.
Is this the part where I refer to people worried about pre-orders as “basement dwelling losers having nothing in their lives worth caring about other than whether other people pre-order games” and then we trade insults for a few comments trying to get the last word until one of us gets bored?
I mean, that’s what we would do on Reddit, but not sure if that’s the case around these parts.
Buying is different to preordering.
I would not buy a broken mess. Why would I preorder it
They think it can go out of stock maybe ahahah
I mean jokes aside, usually preordering digital titles lets you preload most of the content several days before the release. If you don’t have high speed internet, or have a restrictive daily cap - this can give you a leg up on a purchase you were going to day1 buy anyway.
Then on release it just activates your license and then you can spend most of release day playing the game versus waiting for it to download.
That’s a good point, but they should discount the game also, imo
I was going to buy it anyways, even if it’s a mess. If I spend the money now, the game feels free later.
I actually haven’t preordered it and might not, but this is how I felt about Mass Effect Legendary Edition, and Bethesda games are at the same tier for me. I have hundreds of hours in every game since Morrowind; I’ll eventually get my money’s worth.
If I spend the money now, the game feels free later.
“If I pay full price for a sub par product now, it feels like a free upgrade when they finally give me what they told me I’d get six months ago!”
Do you also punch yourself in the nutsack because when it feels so good when you stop?
Thanks for your concern, but I think I understand my own enjoyment of things and my financial situation better than an internet stranger.
I’ve preordered two games in the last decade and I regretted neither (ME:LE and FO4). If I regret this one, I’ll get over it.
Thanks for continuing to be a part of the problem with videogame development and the reason AAA gaming is a disaster 👍
Pre-ordering digitally distributed games is so pointless, but even more so right now. At least wait for the review embargo to end.
But it’s even worse with a Bethesda game.
Exactly my thoughts. If nothing else, this year specifically should hint everyone that triple A doesn’t mean finished release. And being among the first to beta test something for mega corp? No thanks. I’ll wait and see.
Lots of people say they pre-order so they can preload it in advance and play it the minute the launch goes live.
…but if it’s a buggy mess they won’t be able to play it regardless.
Have some decency and crop out the ifunny logo!
Is he trying to entice the gays into preordering? 🤔🏳️🌈
The funniest thing is seeing the rage from Star Citizen fanboys about all this. They keep saying “it’ll be buggy and awful on release” like SC isn’t already. I know with Bethesda, they’ll fix it up and the modders will go wild with patches and add ins, delivering all the stuff Chris Roberts said they would. Meanwhile, I try and play Star Citizen and i’ve died or failed a mission due to glitches any time i’ve tried to play this past week.
Star Citizen still has fanboys?
yup, sunk cost fallacy I suppose.
How dare you call me and my speshul magikal early backer 300i out like that.
Star Citizen delivers just enough to keep people super invested, their recent server rework is actually a really cool addition but every time I consider trying to play it again I realize how shallow and broken it is as a videogame.
Modders shouldn’t have to fix Bethesda’s mess. And I don’t trust Bethesda.
Pff it’s fine. I will fly my Cutlass when I am retired.
As a Star Citizen fanboy, Starfield looks amazing and I can’t wait to play it! The more space games the better.
I won’t even consider buying until it’s been out for at least a year or two. By then the major bugs will have been fixed and all the content added.
I’m so glad this community exists here!
If only lemmy.ml was not down haha
This have looks fabulous to me, but there’s no way I’m preordering. I don’t have a lot of experience with Bethesda, but I thought the overall picture painted was a pretty gorgeous one. Hopefully they can deliver. That being said, I just started playing Fallout76 about two weeks ago, so I don’t mind waiting until they work sone things out. Overall though, what they are promising looks incredible. Probably too good to be true :)
SkillUp said it quite nicely; Never preorder, never ever preorder. And finally, never preorder.
Yes, but I’d also like to add that you should never pre-order, and also that you shouldn’t preorder.
I learned that from TotalBiscuit a long time ago.
TotalBiscuit was a real MVP.
TFW you’re broke and $70 is the norm for AAA games now. As much as I want to get this on Steam so I can have all the games in one account, it’s looking like I have no choice but just play it on the XBOX game pass when it comes out. Living the PH, it’s 3 USD a month here.
no choice
I’m definitely going to play it on PC when it comes out. I’m considering paying for it.
Typical Crimson Fleet geezer right here.
I’m on the same page as you are, though.
@[email protected] you should probably do the same if the price tag is too much for you. If you really do feel wrong about it, you could first get the game, keep playing it all you want, and then just pay later; or, if the experience turns out to be disappointing, never pay for it as a result.
Either is better than pre-ordering. Even if Starfield is worth every penny on launch, i.e. no bugs, no issues that cannot justify the price tag, not a single argument against the very practice of pre-ordering games, giving companies money before they deliver anything at all is giving them much more than just the money - it’s giving them an idea that it’s okay to ask for money before any of the paying customers ever get anything, and this kind of appeasement has to stop.
They never learn do they ?
My tactic of waiting a year until a newly released game is fully patched and grabbing it with a discount has yet to fail me.
(For visibility and sharing)
Not like I have the time to play the games I already have anyway!
Nope. And everybody will scream cause they payed 70 bucks for a broken game, just like Bethesda is known to produce.
Just keep looking at the list. Payday 3 is also there. A publisher known for maybe a worse dlc and microtransaction policy than EA with the Sims, but it seems that doesn’t matter a bit.
When will you learn!? That your actions have consequences!
Well that’s disappointing. As excited as I am, I actually recall the distant events of this year…no preordering.
$70, I guess this is the world we live in now. Can’t wait for the next price hike!
I guess I’ll become a PatientGamer™
Back when I was young, most games cost around $50. But back then they were 1/100th the size and complexity they are now, had absolutely no post-launch support whatsoever, and and even “AAA” titles used pixel art. They didn’t even have voice acting.
If I adjust for inflation alone, no other factors, a $50 game from back then would be $91 today.
I’m not happy about the price increase, but I certainly understand it and can’t really blame anyone for it. Frankly, I’m surprised this didn’t happen many years ago.
Personally, I’ve been a patient gamer for a while - welcome! It’s great here.
I’ve thought about this before, and you’re definitely right that games are technically cheaper when you factor in inflation. However, they sell to a much larger audience now, so it’s not like the major studios are starving. Even so, I would probably be fine with it, if it weren’t for the tendency to:
- include microtransactions, rather than achievements
- sell dlc that should have just been part of the game
- Release the same uninspired crap every year (call of duty, sports ball 2023, etc.)
- sell broken games
I’m guessing this one will be #4. Hoping to be wrong.
I definitely agree with you on 1, 3 and 4. Personally I haven’t even looked at Starfield because of the patient gamer thing, I’ll try it out in a few years or whenever it’s on sale / has enough buzz.
I do kind of defend a lot of dlc though. Some of it is predatory as fuck, but some of it just massively expands a game’s lifespan and you end up with massively more support/content in a post-dlc world than we ever got without it.
It just depends on if they’re selling Horse Armor, or if it’s a game that keeps getting major content patches for 10 years because it’s being supported by dlc. Both happen. Of course, given that “horse armor” is literally something Bethesda did…well…
I think this was the height of egregious DLC. They put it on the disk on release day.
I don’t think anyone’s arguing DLC is completely bad. DLC done properly is awesome, and I way prefer it to the tendency to re-release a game annually. However, it’s absolutely been co-opted to gate off random bits of content behind a paywall. Any DLC released day one (or near to it) is literally just base game content that they thought they could get away with charging for.
Welcome to the PatientGamer™ club! Nobody can really claim to be starved of good games. Play a few year old acclaimed games then come back! Starfield will be baked (optimised and modded) to perfection.
Add in emulators and I really have more games to play than I have time for them.
I’m fine with price hike, inflation is a thing.
The problem is the lack of quality and polish you’d expect from such games. Not to mention other forms of monetization they try to shoehorn in at the cost of user experience.
Not that it matters much to me, I’m patient and can wait until it’s much cheaper and hopefully polished.
Stop. Preordering.
100%. I’m a diehard Bethesda RPG fan, but never ever preorder. I’ll never understand the stupidity in doing this.
I also got hyped and joined the launch day queues when i was a kid. But then we as a community got burned again and again.
Like even the most casual gamer must get pissed off by broken servers.
Honestly I think this is a considerable portion of pre-orders. We didn’t have too much money when I was a kid so having something pre-ordered, knowing that when it comes out I’ll for sure get it, felt really good. Those were the ODST, Battlefront 2 (original) and Oblivion days, though.
Times have changed since, and even to kid me I’m pretty sure how buggy these games tend to be would annoy me.
At the end of the day, it’s a constant battle in my head between “let people enjoy things and do what they want with their own money” and “their spending actively lets companies know it’s ok to do this over and over again, delivering buggy messes that will affect game series I enjoy” lol.
Like at least find out if the planets are any good first and not just 2000 procedurally generated flavors of bear asses to collect.
Hopefully there’s a whole RPG game in there and those are just side stuff to muck around and get some loot.
The people that preorder clearly aren’t listening
The people that preorder clearly aren’t listening
Or they are listening and just don’t care.
Why are people advising against pre-ordering? Is Bethesda known for not meeting expected release dates?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf5Uj4XIT1Y
Basically, preordering incentivizes companies to release games that are not finished. In general, companies will always maximize revenues while minimizing costs. If they can release a game that didn’t cost them as much to produce (getting massive preorders through good marketing but pinching development and quality) then they absolutely will. look at any AAA released this year
It’s literally pointless. You are getting no benefit. You can buy it when it releases.
Why are people buying products that they can’t even have until release day?
I officially hate everyone who preorders digital games. There is absolutely no justification for it. If you preorder, youre the reason modern gaming sucks.
I literally don’t get it either. “BuT It lEtS me DOwNlOaD iT iN AdVanCE” but like are you really that impatient you need it the second it’s released? And before seeing if it’s actually a good game or not?? It’s like people have learned nothing from the constant shitty releases time and time again
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I don’t really care that people throw away their money like this. Because I am now always looking forward to the always very entertaining youtube clips of how much off a disaster the lastet AAA videogame release is.
At this point that should be a tagged genre.
When will they learn that their actions have consequences? Star field is going to be a fucking disaster lol.
Red Fall or Gollum disaster?
Yes
