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minus-squareZephyrXero@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up27arrow-down1·2 years agoUSB 4 can already do 80 gbit, why are they even bothering with a competing standard anymore?
minus-squareHypx@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up24arrow-down1·2 years agoThat’s USB4 v2.0, not USB4. It’s not the same thing.
minus-squareArtVandelay@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up62·2 years agoUgh…Find me one more naming standard on this entire fucking planet more screwed up than USB
minus-squarekvadd@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up19·2 years agoOh, let me introduce you to our lord and savior Microsoft! Windows 1, Windows 2, Windows 3, Windows 95, Windows NT, Windows 98, Windows 2000, Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. And then we have the magic that is Xbox: Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox One S, Xbox One X, Xbox Series S, Xbox Series X
minus-square Morphit @feddit.uklinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up20·edit-22 years ago Windows 9 Woah, that’s sounding a bit too logical, there. Even better is that the Windows 11 version number isn’t 11, it’s 10.0.22000.
minus-squarekvadd@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up10·2 years agoOh shit, I forgot they actually skipped 9 :D
minus-squareJohanno@feddit.delinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up7arrow-down1·2 years agoReason was that old naming schemes from 95 and 98 messed up their shit.
minus-squaretony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uklinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up7·2 years agoWindows 95 was version 3.95 because returning 4.0 from the GetVersion api broke loads of software that was doing stupid checks. People then started hardcoding checks for 3.95… GetVersion has been deprecated completely now…
minus-squareMrScottyTay@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down1·2 years agoThat’s cause 11 is mostly the same as 10 under the hood barr a few additions. But is mostly regarded as just a better front-end for 10
minus-squareNatanael@slrpnk.netlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up4arrow-down1·2 years agoLess complete frontend
minus-squareMrScottyTay@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up4arrow-down1·2 years agoI would say that 10 is way more mish mashed together than 11s
minus-squareNatanael@slrpnk.netlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·2 years agoAt least they didn’t remove access to a ton of important settings
minus-squareMolecular0079@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up5·2 years agoGod I hate the entire industry of marketing and sales and this is one of the reasons why. Even worse is when Apple decides to just name everything the same thing and get rid of numbers entirely.
minus-squareVoyajer@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·2 years agoYou’re also missing 8.1 if we’re going by Microsoft’s wish of calling a service pack a whole new version of Windows.
minus-squarePatius@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down1·2 years agoWifi under the old standard?
minus-squaregirsaysdoom@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up19·2 years agoLooking at Wikipedia, it seems like USB 4 has a 120Gbps asymmetric mode as well. That’s wild!
minus-squaresznio@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up15arrow-down1·2 years agoCan you connect PCI-E devices to USB 4? That feels like the only useful feature of Thunderbolt imo.
minus-squarenotepass@feddit.delinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up17·2 years agoYes. The full USB-4 spec has that. That being said: thunderbolt is still great for verification. If it says thunderbolt you exactly know what it can do and that it should work as expected. USB-4 will be plastered on anything that can do only plain usb4 speeds.
minus-squareZephyrXero@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up9·edit-22 years agoYep. It’s also compatible with most all Thunderbolt 4 functionality. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/breaking-down-how-usb4-goes-where-no-usb-standard-has-gone-before/3/#h3
USB 4 can already do 80 gbit, why are they even bothering with a competing standard anymore?
That’s USB4 v2.0, not USB4. It’s not the same thing.
Ugh…Find me one more naming standard on this entire fucking planet more screwed up than USB
Oh, let me introduce you to our lord and savior Microsoft!
Windows 1, Windows 2, Windows 3, Windows 95, Windows NT, Windows 98, Windows 2000, Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, 8, 9, 10, 11.
And then we have the magic that is Xbox:
Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox One S, Xbox One X, Xbox Series S, Xbox Series X
Woah, that’s sounding a bit too logical, there.
Even better is that the Windows 11 version number isn’t 11, it’s 10.0.22000.
Oh shit, I forgot they actually skipped 9 :D
Reason was that old naming schemes from 95 and 98 messed up their shit.
Windows 95 was version 3.95 because returning 4.0 from the GetVersion api broke loads of software that was doing stupid checks.
People then started hardcoding checks for 3.95…
GetVersion has been deprecated completely now…
That’s cause 11 is mostly the same as 10 under the hood barr a few additions. But is mostly regarded as just a better front-end for 10
Less complete frontend
I would say that 10 is way more mish mashed together than 11s
At least they didn’t remove access to a ton of important settings
God I hate the entire industry of marketing and sales and this is one of the reasons why.
Even worse is when Apple decides to just name everything the same thing and get rid of numbers entirely.
You’re also missing 8.1 if we’re going by Microsoft’s wish of calling a service pack a whole new version of Windows.
Kingdom Hearts.
The Fast and the Furious.
Windows
Wifi under the old standard?
Looking at Wikipedia, it seems like USB 4 has a 120Gbps asymmetric mode as well. That’s wild!
Can you connect PCI-E devices to USB 4? That feels like the only useful feature of Thunderbolt imo.
Yes. The full USB-4 spec has that.
That being said: thunderbolt is still great for verification. If it says thunderbolt you exactly know what it can do and that it should work as expected. USB-4 will be plastered on anything that can do only plain usb4 speeds.
Yep. It’s also compatible with most all Thunderbolt 4 functionality. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/breaking-down-how-usb4-goes-where-no-usb-standard-has-gone-before/3/#h3