Apple removes app created by Andrew Tate::Legal firm had said Real World Portal encouraged misogyny and there was evidence to suggest it is an illegal pyramid scheme

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    “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”

    While I truly believe the dude and his app are bad, Apple shouldn’t be able to both arbitrarily remove whatever apps they want from the store, but disallow loading apps from places other than the store.

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      How about the pyramid scheme thing? How about malware? You gonna bust out your pseduo-Voltaire to defend malware too?

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        Do you believe it’s actually possible to eliminate malware? I don’t, and I don’t think fear of that is a good reason to let a megacorp censored and suppress people’s rights.

        Also that quote wasn’t actually said by Voltaire, but I have another out of context and disputed quote for you that’s very relevant here:

        “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

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        No, protection from government persecution is just what the 2nd amendment to the United States Constitution provides.

        The general concept of freedom of speech is larger than that, and there is nothing about a large powerful corporation that should mean they are allowed to fuck you over for what you say

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            Okay, aside from 1 ascii character being off, have any meaningful response to what I meant with my comment?

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                1. It’s not as simple as “not doing business with apple”. There are serious social ramifications to not having an iPhone in the US.
                2. Even if I choose to do business with them, I should still have Rights as a customer.

                It’s not easy

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                    Terms of service can be incredibly one sided. And you don’t have the option to not agree or negotiate, and still use the hardware you paid for in a reasonable way.

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                  If there actually were serious ramifications to not having an Iphone in the US, then Android wouldn’t have more than 40% market share.

                  The only thing you guys have a problem with are pompous snooty egomaniacs who care about the OS on someone else’s phone.

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        I’m aware of it. But this is not the same as letting Nazis hang out in your bar turning it into a Nazi bad, you don’t have to even interact, see, or be aware of the shitty things that others do with their own devices.

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          Apple is a private company that doesn’t want to promote this rapist. It’s their right.

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            Owning black people was also the right of plantation owners. And Nazis said they had a lot of rights as well…

            If you think that something being a legal right means it morally should be, you’re on the wrong side of history.

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              You’re comparing Apple to Nazis because they don’t want to be in business with a rapist scumbag?

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                No, I’m saying just because we currently don’t regulate large corporations enough doesn’t mean they should have the right to fuck over anybody they want to

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                  As a privately owned company, they reserve the right to not support rapists.Stop advocating for a rapist.

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                    I don’t support rapists. That dude and people that want his app suck.

                    But everybody deserves to be able to run whatever software there want on their devices. And no company should be able to tell you what to do with things that you own.