The screenshot shows the recommendations from https://join-lemmy.org/.

Still being federated with exploding-heads does not mean the instance supports them. But it means that shit-heads are allowed to take part in the discussions on their communities. They do intoxicate the discussions we will have. They will attack minorities. Maybe you will not be harassed by them, more vulnerable people will be. They are allowed to moderate communities on these instances. Exploding-heads members actively guide young and unknowing people to their hateful instance.

They try to start discussions about the holocaust https://sh.itjust.works/post/227268. They create communities only to crosspost exploding-heads content https://lemmy.world/c/pharma They take over discussions against them https://exploding-heads.com/comment/132189 “WHY are vulnerable people joining a decentralized system? Isnt this why you want a closed, not for public eyes community?”

This was a link to exploding-heads, because when someone copies a permalink of a comment from them on another instance, it will be a link to their instance.

Are we building a place where vulnerable people are welcome and safe or are we building a place where nazis are welcome and safe?

They want you to block them, they comment that everywhere. They block people who are in favor of defederating them https://sh.itjust.works/post/225714 When their opponents won’t see them anymore, they can harass and recruit without being noticed.

Blocking will not solve the problem. They will spread even when you close your eyes.

M̶a̶y̶b̶e̶ t̶h̶i̶s̶ w̶a̶s̶ n̶o̶t̶ d̶o̶n̶e̶ i̶n̶t̶e̶n̶t̶i̶o̶n̶a̶l̶l̶y̶, b̶u̶t̶ n̶o̶w̶ there is a post with a list of ‘health communities on Lemmy’ with the first entry guiding to exploding heads. https://lemmy.world/post/396561

It is still possible that some of the mentioned instances do support them. The owner of sh.itjust.works says that because of “free speech” all other instances would be allowed. It is suspicious to me that his line is drawn only for lemmygrad https://sh.itjust.works/comment/130474

The decision to block the Lemmygrad instance was less a question of censorship, and more an issue of personal conviction. As a volunteer dedicating my personal resources and time to facilitating a space for users to create, discover, and discuss - not just on this instance, but across the Fediverse - I admit that this choice was made alone, selfishly, without the consent or thoroughly considering the collective opinion of the community. With the above said, sh.itjust.works has had the lemmygrad instance blocked from its first day.

I’d like to also point out that the lemmygrad instance has far more blocked instances than what is currently blocked here. Maybe you can create a post on that instance to see what that’s all about and report back?

At the same time they seem to ignore the call and vote to defederate with exploding-heads https://sh.itjust.works/post/433483.

They rejected to delete The_Donald from sh.itjust.works until they feared to get isolated from the other instances: https://lemmy.ml/post/1467310. They where aware of The_Donald and ignored early warnings. (https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/266248). TD was more important to them than keeping the only mod of their 4th biggest community c/patientgamers (https://sh.itjust.works/post/291747, https://sh.itjust.works/post/388922)

Since The_Donald was removed, I did not find more racist content on the mentioned servers. That is part their tactics. They act harmless but recruit to their instance, attract likeminded people and chase others away. Discussions on sh.itjust.works about such topics are very toxic already, soon they might be able to do more harm.

(My research is very limited, as i could not search for all exploding-heads member content on other instances by entering their domain. I know there are nice communities on sh.itjust.works.)

What can be done? On joinmastodon.org there is a Mastodon Server Covenant with very few useful rules, one of them is “Active moderation against racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia”. https://joinmastodon.org/covenant It would be a first step to implement these rules for join-lemmy.org. At least instances that want to be recommended on there should have to agree to that rule.

More actions should be taken now. Please make suggestions. Things will only become more complicated. The next reddit wave is incoming.

For those who did not already know:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

https://www.upworthy.com/bartender-explains-why-he-swiftly-kicks-nazis-out-of-his-punk-bar-even-if-theyre-not-bothering-anyone

This is not the first time new platforms face these problems, do we really have to repeat the same mistakes?

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      Conspiracy? Maybe I’m wrong about why they picked .ml, but it’s not a conspiracy at all that Nutomic and Dessaline are communists. Didn’t you see the link to Dessalines’ Marxist study guide? They’re not hiding it. It’s no secret.

      And I’m also a Marxist-Leninist, so I’m really not trying to start any “conspiracy”.

      Check out some more essays and resources by Dessalines:

      https://github.com/dessalines/essays

      Featuring such work as “List of US atrocities” (based) and “Lenin’s revolutionary strategy”

      Especially check in on his socialism faq link. https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/socialism_faq.md

      Go look at the links for USSR and China. Bet you’d call him a Tankie.

      Here’s Nutomic adverising on reddit a few years back: If you want to try something other than Reddit, then give Lemmy a try! Developed and run by Marxist-Leninists. - /u/Nutomic posting on /r/sendinthetanks

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        And I’m also a Marxist-Leninist

        You are a grifter, is all you are. I can smell any ideologies, and you stink. You are an American who loves Texans team.

        You purposely push for the conspiratorial nonsense that .ml TLD means Marxist-Leninist, when in reality it stands for Mali country and was chosen due to it being a free TLD. You have refused to explain your position on why you insist on calling Mali TLD the same as Marxist-Leninist, which makes me think you are just a malicious troll with the intent of legitimising this conspiracy by continuously spamming it everywhere.

        Can Marxist-Leninists not use .ml domain at all, according to a conspiracist like you, or the few others that insist on bullshitting for the sole purpose of trolling? You should go back to r/conspiracy or /pol/, where these views are celebrated.

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          Lmao I never said .ml means Marxist-Leninist in general. I just suggested that’s why Dessalines and Nutomic - two proven Marxist-Leninists - might have chosen to use it. Many people use domains that have nothing to do with their actual intended use. YouTube often uses youtu.be for shorter links, it’s nothing to do with Belgium which is what .be is intended for.

          Even if it isn’t true and it is just coincidence, it doesn’t take away from my point in the slightest that the original person I responded to seemed not very fond of communists at all, yet they seemed unaware their instance was run by two of them. Reactionaries may even call them “tankies”.

          You are an American who loves Texans team.

          I can’t help where I was born, sorry. And I was unaware that no communist can enjoy sports at all.

          go back to r/conspiracy or /pol/

          Why would I want to interact with such reactionaries?

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            Even if it isn’t true and it is just coincidence, it doesn’t take away from my point in the slightest

            You have no point to begin with. You are purposely conflating and moving goalposts like the average troll who knows how to play with lexicons. Lemmy does not have “ml” in its name, unlike YouTube which has “be”. Belgium TLD is also not free unlike Mali’s, and is very expensive, another false equivalence.

            You are an American who loves Texans team.

            I can’t help where I was born, sorry. And I was unaware that no communist can enjoy sports at all.

            Thanks for confirming the hypocrisy in your conspiratorial stance, because you originally claimed that any Marxist-Leninist that hosts websites intentionally uses .ml TLD for political purposes, and it is impossible that they use it because it is a free TLD associated with Mali country. Moreover, to appease conspiracists like you, any Marxist-Leninist must never use .ml TLD because otherwise grifters will come and try to use Cold War McCarthyist sentiments like “communism bad” to rile up people.