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  • I don’t see the point in hiding it other than being somewhat petty.

    The point in hiding it was that it was being used, without harassment or complaint, right up until he added attribution which resulted in an avalanche of complaints which require resources to deal with. Discord, the forums and Github pull requests now require much more moderation labor, which takes away from the project.

    People had no complaints about the code quality until he started adding AI attribution. So he removed the attribution.

    Like he said, if people can’t tell the difference until he started marking the code AI assisted… then they don’t actually have an argument and are simply bringing anti-AI politics into the project.


  • If there’s no difference in quality why obfuscate it? Why hide something that you think is a valuable tool if your code can speak for

    The timeline was that he started adding attribution indicating the use of AI.

    Then the anti-AI drones started bombarding the Github, Discord and forums with harassment. His recent statements and removal of attribution are entirely addressed at and because of the anti-AI people harassing the project staff.

    He’s not removing it and saying ‘fuck you’ to the users. He’s tired of being harassed by third parties who are not involved with the project in any way and so he removed the source of the harassment.


  • I agree.

    If you read the anti-AI comments you’ll find that when they say ‘AI’ they mean ‘LLMs fine tuned to be chatbots’ and ‘Diffusion models which generate bitmaps or video files’

    They’re seemingly ignorant of all of the other things that Transformers and Deep Neural Networks are used for.

    Remember how there were all of these projects trying to crowd source an algorithm to fold proteins given an amino acid sequence? Well, a trained neural network ‘AI’ called Alphafold was created and it can complete the task with >90% accuracy. THEN, using a network like AlphaFold another group of scientists made a diffusion model that could be prompted with protein parameters and then generate the string of amino acids which would fold into that protein.

    I find it hard to believe that the ‘fuck AI’ crowd understands that ‘AI’ is completely separate from the capitalist frenzy over chatbots and image generation. The vast majority of their complaints are not about the technology, they are about assholes who have a lot of money that are abusing and overhyping the technology in order to get more money.



  • Out of many more ethical models out there, why go with that one specifically?

    Because it is the better tool in the usecase that he is engaging with.

    You’re setting up an impossible standard, one that you don’t follow yourself.

    You know that Social Media is used to spread propaganda throughout the world, leading to hate crimes, genocides, wars, sexual exploitation etc. You’re still using social media. There are many more ethical ways to talk to people, why go with social media specifically?

    All you’ve discovered is that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. You can take anything that a person does and trace the supply chain to find examples of wholly immoral behavior. Unless you plan on living in a cave, you’re going to appear like a hypocrite at the very least if you start picking apart the choices of others under that lens.












  • Being rude and condescending back didn’t improve the situation.

    You were correct, factually, and they were wrong. People don’t like being told that they’re wrong and being rude is one of the more common reactions. If you’re going to try to engage with people on topics where there is a lot of ignorance and misinformation you’ll encounter that a lot.

    If you’re just going to hit back then you’re going to be spending a lot of time pissed off and wasting your time trash talking people who don’t care what you have to say. To me, that tactic generates a lot of headache and no gain. Once it gets toxic I’d rather disengage or write as if I’m addressing the other members of the community who are reading along. Lemmy is still small enough where you can recognize people and develop a reputation so taking the high ground vs toxic people can pay dividends in terms of having other people listen to your opinions.