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But theyre not recycled much–YET.

Agree and excitedly look forward to growth in that market (or even having a market for it). They will eventually become a profitable recycling opportunity. Unless one of the other battery techs (tons of them) in development just completely supplanted them. Either way the impact should diminish over time. Main questions are how fast and long will they continue to be an environmental negative.

Rechargeable nickel–cadmium (Ni-Cd), nickel metal hydride (Ni-MH), lithium-ion (Li-ion) and nickel–zinc (Ni-Zn), can also be recycled. Disposable alkaline batteries make up the vast majority of consumer battery use, but there is currently no cost-neutral recycling option.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_recycling

EDIT: You can read further down how close some of these companies are to an actual recycling center. They’re getting there!

After the upcoming Civil War. I’m not advocating for it, but I definitely think it’s inevitable.

I seriously can’t recommend Kagi enough! Make an account and do a hundred searches (FREE) that aren’t monetized and/or used to advertise to you or steal your data. It’s incredible what a difference it makes.

https://kagi.com/

When a fact looks like propaganda to you, then you need to recognize the red flag and seek self improvement.

I still support moving this direction because it creates the necessary infrastructure that can be leveraged by newer battery tech. And likely even with the batteries, it’s better than diesel.

I don’t know how to help you read.

You sound like a demagog who feels attacked when faced with facts or genuine issues. Advocating for improvements to the technology isn’t being anti-EV or even anti-battery. LOL. #faceplam&sigh

EDIT: Why on earth are people downvoting improving battery technology? LMFAO, sometimes this place is batshit crazy.

There’s research into many different formulations that don’t use nearly as much (or in some cases any) toxic materials, solid-state batteries, etc.

Are you taking the critique personally? If so, that’s a misunderstanding. It’s not an attack on you.

It’s simply a fact there’s a LONG way to go on battery tech, and anything we can do to increase power density while decreasing weight is critical to making them more environmentally friendly and sustainable.

I love EVs and truly believe they’re the future. But holy shit what must these monsters weigh? And, what’s the environmental impact considering our current shitty battery tech?

I still support moving this direction because it creates the necessary infrastructure that can be leveraged by newer battery tech. And likely even with the batteries, it’s better than diesel.

But the new batteries to make them lighter and less polluting can’t come soon enough.

Its not that people have missed the joke, it’s that the joke is poorly formed and not hyperbolic enough to be funny, instead it’s rather a half joke and brings up a larger issue (intentional or not), that undermines the attempt at absurdist humor.

I find Dunning-Kruger to be funny.

I don’t envy you that miserable decision. And I get that you’ve evaluated everything and personally feel it’s worth gambling that they don’t fuck you and make it pointless, all that effort, bringing the game to market.

I’m rooting for you here, and I hope everything works out!

I feel just as awful for anyone who has an overwhelming port or even an impossible port. It’s just miserable.

Wait, people are still using Unity after they clearly demonstrated they’ll fuck you on a whim? Honestly, seems like everyone’s been given a fair warning about dealing with these scumbags. I get migrating a codebase is a motherfucker, and sometimes it is even easier to redevelop much or all of the project. But again, if you’re renting retail space from someone who is a psychopath, bipolar, and an arsonist (Unity in this case), and they might burn your shop down at any moment, sometimes you gotta move!

Because when your legislators write laws (read, have them handed to them by the party with a direct interest) they do it for campaign donations because everything is money. Capitalism’s end stage is corporatocracy and oligarchy. Surprise, we’re there! Legislation in a healthy democracy/republic is written for the benefit of the citizens, but we stopped being a democratic republic long ago. In capitalism, legislation is written to maximize profit at all expense, including the health, welfare, and best interests of the citizens.

This isn’t new, study the history of the East India Trading Company. The difference is lack a monarch to dissolve the company (and it’s not just one company anymore). The founders remembered the lesson of East India Trading Company and corporate charters in the US used to be temporary, and you had to show a benefit to the citizens. It’s one reason conservatives, republicans, and capitalists don’t want strong education and history lessons. Corporations in the past were NOT people, and they better benefit society or they could swiftly have their charter revoked and dissolved.

This is a repeat, but even more successful than in the past. But when your populous has no education it seems brand new!

EDIT: Low effort/research further reading

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/cbo-american-wealth-inequality/

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/jimmy-carter-u-s-is-an-oligarchy-with-unlimited-political-bribery-63262/

Notepad++, GET YOUR FOSS ON PEOPLE!

https://notepad-plus-plus.org/

If you’re not using it, then you’re going to be extremely happy when you switch!

Kind of a strawman, I’d like everything to be FOSS, and if we keep Capitalism (which we shouldn’t), it should be HEAVILY regulated not the laissez-faire corporatocracy / oligarchy we have now.

I don’t want any for-profit capitalists to have any control of AI. It should all be owned by the public and all productive gains from it taxed at 100%. But open source AI models, right on.

And team SciHub–FUCK YEAH!

General purpose AI robots will take manual labor, and specialized AI machinery. It already does in many manufacturing plants, just b/c the robots running algorithms and using machine learning don’t look like human arms doesn’t mean they’re not already there and taking jobs.

The current capitalists do NOT plan to get rid of capitalism. They think they’re going to get hundreds of percent productivity gains while cutting the workforce by 90%+. It is society as a whole, and all of us who aren’t the 1% that are going to have to get rid of capitalism. It will have to be French Revolution style.

There won’t be MORE wage slaves, not when there’s no need to pay people at all. That’s rather the point. Capitalism literally can’t work without wage slaves–that’s its end state (where we are now). All the wealth concentrated into the hands of the feudal lords, the peasants toil and the lords take all the spoils. But in this case you’re going to have robotic peasants, and a whole group of have nothings, who are also unemployed with no prospects–usually that equals civil war. Though there’s a chance that you could get the militarized tech and actually win against a peasant revolt now. Huge population reduction, still maintain the quality of life for the lords, and maximum dystopia.

And you’ll like it too, you’ll embrace Toxic Positivity as the corporate mantra right up until the oceans acidify and the billionaires have long gone underground into their bunkers hoping to repopulate the Earth once the rest if us have all eaten each other.

I don’t think you really mean to talk for me. But I can tell you that it’s EVERY survivor’s duty to bury the rich in their bunkers when they go scurry off. ;)

This will be a unique turning point because we’re about to get to where you don’t need the people who normally revolt and fight a civil war to be alive. The capitalists are eyeballing a future without the need for the bulk of the population. I hope we don’t let them get there.

Def. ;) I was just throwing out easy low hanging fruit on a thread.

It’s going to remove MOST people from most jobs. The focus isn’t on maintaining jobs, but instead getting rid of capitalism, setting up a UBI, and public ownership of all AI productivity gains taxed at 100%.

Then you say fuck your job and you animate what you want. IF, you still want to do that.

You are NOT alone in this boat snd neither are artists. Truck drivers, pilots, data analysts, most finance sector jobs, most copy writers, and on and on. Many large corporate farms these days run on tractors that go by GPS and drive themselves…

Bottom line, it’s jobs that are in trouble, which is why capitalism can no longer be allowed to exist.

Companies need to learn that it’s a vocal minority that cares. Lots of us love AI art, hell I prefer it at times to traditional. Companies will definitely learn because they only care about $$$. The art is way cheaper to produce, and a lot of people don’t care.

Yes, I do care that there will be no jobs in the future, but the issue isn’t artists jobs—it’s ALL jobs. And that means capitalism has to go and UBI come back. Productivity produces leisure time, and the only reason it hasn’t is b/c of billionaires and near-billionaires thanks to capitalism. Anti-ai art people often just don’t get that the issue is specifically capitalism. Time to get rid of copyright, make all AI productivity 100% taxed, and all AI models owned by the public.

All AI should be FOSS and public domain, owned by the people, and all gains from its use taxed at 100%. It’s only because of the public that AI exists, through the schools, universities, NSF, grants, etc and all the other places that taxes have been poured into that created the advances upon which AI stands, and the AI critical research as well.

It’s why AI ultimately will be the death of capitalism, or the dawn of the endless war against the capitalists (literally, and physically).

AI will ultimately replace most jobs, capitalism can’t work without wage slave, or antique capitalism aka feudalism… so yeah. Gonna need to move towards UBI and more utopian, or just a miserable endless bloody awful war against the capitalists.

I was literally about to come in here and say it would be an interesting tangential conversation to talk about how FUCKED copyright laws are, and how relevant to the discussion it would be.

More upvote for you!