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Cake day: December 31st, 2023

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  • I hate that there is no good way to tell someone they’re wrong. If you make it brief, they think you’re just there to attack them and the entirety of what they said even if it’s just a very specific issue/nitpick. If you make it verbose it’s a wall of text ten times longer that they half the time don’t believe and still think you’re attacking them!



  • I’ve had to fluff up what I say to explicitly say “I don’t mean [x], I’m not implying [y]”, but I can’t cover everything and so I still get hostility, it’s very frustrating.

    I’ve noticed that people (including me) try to build a mental model of your beliefs very quickly, so without much context to base it on they usually base it on stereotypes (e.g. nitpicking a science claim is the sort of thing a science denier would do, therefore you’re probably that even if you just noticed a tiny incorrect detail and that’s it). It doesn’t help that over text, if you wanted to get that context and not make assumptions about others, you’re going to have to spend a lot of time writing questions and waiting multiple back-and-forths for answers to inform your next questions.

    Another thing I’ve noticed is that most disagreements online are arguments about something where facts are just pawns to be played to win. I’m sure most of us have seen this play out, and usually if someone gets obviously proven wrong they just pull out the next fact and move goalposts, because most people don’t like “losing”. So if you say something like “I think you’re wrong because [x]”, you look exactly like the people arguing who have an implicit agenda. And I can’t blame people for assuming that, because if you give everyone the benefit of the doubt you lose sooo much time to the ~80% of arguers with a hidden agenda.








  • You’re right that it’s your place to talk about your opinion, but you’re trying to deny them theirs, that’s the problem.

    I find “powers” a strange word choice because of its connotation, but if you want to use it, whatever, language is a complex and subjective thing. Other than that, I didn’t see any generalization from the person you’re arguing with, so I don’t understand your response.

    I think you might have misinterpreted their line about their giftedness, they said “I’m considered gifted” then explained that they don’t feel they have “powers”. This does not imply that’s the same for everyone considered gifted, so it is not a generalization.

    I have some strategies I use for not getting into a situation like this. I try to assume the best from people, but when I think an uncharitable interpretation is likely I’ll ask clarifying questions like “are you saying that all gifted people are only good at IQ tests?”. Sometimes I focus on the wrong details, sometimes the other person says things in a weird way, clarification always helps.