CONCLUSION: I will stop watching them since all of these alligations and “false?” hardware testing makes me not wanna support them. Even if most of them aren’t true, i don’t want to risk it

ive heard some mixed things about ltt so i want to know if theyre actually bad or not

and im not watching them for linux help, i just like the content, but i also dont want to support a bad person

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    “Quality clickbait” is the best description I have.

    It’s an entertaining channel, prone to reviewing flashy stuff, rather than useful tips as the name might suggest. But not completely stupid, those guys have some knowledge and skills to back it up.

    I can’t say how it changed over time, I’ve only watched them occasionally over the last 2-3 years.

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      That about sums then up. They have been on a streak promoting Linux, which is pretty great since they are a bigger channel. Are they perfect? No, but they are helping get new users into Linux.

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        I remember making the choice to just stop watching any Linux-focused videos from that channel. They always just tended to frustrate me. But, as I understand, the main host has started to really enjoy Linux lately due to the Steam Machine. Have their Linux videos improved at all due to that?

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          I can’t say that what your take on their Linux videos is wrong, but they had valid concerns and call outs. Their problems are reproducible and are things that would have kept me away from Linux before they were addressed. He genuinely wants Linux to succeed so by bringing attention to problems he had, it helped prioritize friction from switching. Now that he has had much fewer issues with daily driving Linux, he found himself wanting to actively avoid going back to windows. Who knows if that would have been the case if he didnt help spotlight Linux friction points.

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      They’re basically filling in that market for entry level tech knowledge and enthusiasts that used to be occupied by CNET and Tom’s Hardware when written articles were king.

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    He hate unions. Doesn’t pay his workers fairly. Drives a porsche. Has a private jet. Knew that honey was scamming him with the last click affiliate links switcheroo and instead of exposing them he quietly ended there sponsorship with them.

    Also the 2 - 3 sponsor breaks plus the “at ltt store dot com” self promotion every 5 minutes really makes the videos unbearable to watch even with sponsor block.

    Let alone all the non compete shit with his workers as well as the working atmosphere that was reported by some of the workers.

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      [citation needed]

      For unions he has said he is pro union, just that he would count it as a personal failing if his team felt they needed to unionize.

      For your last point there are over 100 people working there. You will inevitably meet oddballs who are not happy with anything. Also non compete is (unfortunately) standard legalise these days.

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        For unions he has said he is pro union

        He’s not. He cannot be, it doesn’t matter what he said. If you understand the meaning of “collective bargaining” you cannot believe that an employer can even remotely like unions. Of course he was pretending.

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      LTT was not the only ones ditching honey at the time, long before the 2024 honey scandal.

      The only real news was that honey was/is only showing/setting their own worse coupons, even if another coupon would provide a better deal.

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      This is such a tired take. He gets people enthusiastic about exciting or fun things in tech. Not every tech channel or influencer needs to deep dive analytics or details. Even so, they sometimes do exactly that.

      Like him/them or not, they have advanced repairablity, spotlighted unethical behavior, and made useful guides for things like ad-blocking and piracy.

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    watch the video of linus buying a private jet and see if that’s the kind of guy you wanna support

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    Most of the comments here are very wrong, assuming the worst, or deliberately have their head in the sand about some of the controversies and the reality of those situations.

    LTT is casual-ish tech - not as mainstream casual as MKBHD ot UrAvgConsumer, but way more casual than say, Craft Computing.

    I consume a ludicrous amount (and wide range) of TechTube and have seen plenty of controversies and have ditched plenty of channels due to scandals. GamersNexus used to be a favorite. Emphasis on past tense. They did a lot of deliberate hit pieces on LTT and it’s rather well documented - Zip Tie Tuning/Tech by Alex has a fantastic video shedding light on the misbehavior of GamersNexus - plenty of other folks also covered their motivations and unfair approach. Linus is a character - and definitely can be emotional - but his dialogue attempts with Steve were commendable - Steve just decided to be a whiny baby instead. Self-stylized “journalist” one might say.

    Controversies fanned by GN are what rendered a lot of people anti-LTT, and unable to rectify their views once the attacks impacted. LTT had plenty to criticize (and I do), but the GN attack topics were not them.

    I almost ditched LTT and boycotted them after all those attacks. But once the smoke cleared and reality made itself known, I was pleasantly surprised to have not knee-jerk reacted.

    LTT like all channels is beholden to nonsense algorithmic marketing that all channels suffer, so I’ve noted more clickbaity behavior in recent videos.

    I’m a far-left, pro-union, Linux-loving, Windows-hating, Apple-hating, Big Tech-hating, anti-sexual assault, anti-billionaire, pro-little guy type of person.

    I consider LTT to be edutainment with more good impact than bad. They’ll suffer some of the pitfalls of capitalism with some aggressive marketing. They’ll naturally need to compete in the YT space. But the characters running the show seem to have their heads screwed on right and their morals in a good place. They will make mistakes. The WAN show sheds light on it - including at times Linus’ difficulty in handling blame. But he also often comes around - and all things considered I’m not too mad about that as his primary negative trait.

    I don’t love the private plane purchase but there’s so much more nuance to that with an intended sell of it than others give allowance to understand.

    Also I’d be remiss if I didn’t highlight Linus’ pro-trans (and broadly, LGBTQ+) approach - his support/ready defense of Emily when she came out was great to see.

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      Thanks for the nuanced take. I got downvoted recently for saying I don’t get the hate for LTT. I like watching it and learning.

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      This hits the nail on the head for me as well.

      They’re becoming quite vocal about the feasibility of Linux on the desktop as of late too. Linus finally found a Linux machine that doesn’t explode the moment he touches it and appears to have left smitten.

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        Strongly agreed, yeah - very happy to see the boost to Linux use from their championing of it!

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      Any links? I’d rather watch GM because of the journalism content in the industry. I haven’t seen any videos with GM in a negative light. Right now, I don’t want to support Linus cuz of jet, lack of him & his wife’s payroll transparency with Linus media group(did not disclose distributions saying it was too complicated. It is not.), the jet, etc.

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        Sure, ignore the clickbait title here, but this sheds some light:

        https://youtu.be/m0GPnA9pW8k

        GamersNexus has been validly hit by many others online for their deliberately-disingenuous attacks on LTT - honestly it just got embarrassing at a point, and really pathetic. I used to love them. I even have one of their very handy anti-static workmats.

        Once they deliberately fanned the flames of false controversy enough times (oh the chances I gave them…), I unsubscribed and stopped following them. A shame too, because Steve seems like a pro-consumer rights type of guy. But that’s not good enough on its own to keep me a patron of anyone.

        I’m pretty sure LMG did release a shockingly-detailed video about how they make money and where that money goes, and how much to employees (the math can be done to provide the numbers). Do I think the funds for the jet purchase would have been better spent on employees? Sure. I don’t expect to agree with every decision made by content creators - I expect to disagree with many. This isn’t one that cancels them for me.

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        Hahaha, i"m kind of dumbfounded by the very poor takes in this entire thread and how little research everyone did - and the weird expectation many of them have that they would be privy to the details of a investigation about an HR matter regarding harassment accusations. That info…by the very nature of what it encompasses, was always going to stay out of the public sphere.

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    I’m pretty sure Linus doesn’t know how to use a computer.
    Hardware-wise, he knows how to put things together and modify it to suit his purpose but when it comes to installing and using software, he has no fucking idea what he’s doing.

    The two Linux challenges that he has participated in has made this clear for most of us Linux users…
    But it’s not just Linux he struggles with, he makes all the same fails with windows all the time.

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      Glad it’s not just me that feels this way. He’s always come off a somebody who doesn’t really know shit about fuck but caters to people who know even less so he can pretend on the Internet.

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    “The Problem with Linus Tech Tips: Accuracy, Ethics, & Responsibility” (44:14mins) by Gamers Nexus on August 14, 2023: YouTube or Invidious or Internet Archive

    This video is not monetized. This video covers our serious concerns regarding the data accuracy of Linus Media Group, including Linus Tech Tips, ShortCircuit, and TechQuickie, particularly as it relates to rushing content out the door to favor – by staff’s own admission – quantity over quality. As the company continues to expand into its LTT Labs direction, the importance of accurate data increases; however, even as ‘only’ entertainment, there are still certain responsibilities to the consumer and the manufacturers to report fairly (and to have defined corrections processes in place). We tried to approach this as objectively as possible and hope that viewers are able to listen to the evidence we present, particularly as it relates to significant and frequent data errors that now present in nearly every technical review video.

    TIMESTAMPS
    
    00:00 - The Last 2 Weeks
    01:40 - LMG is Rushing Too Much: Establishing the Premise
    03:48 - LTT's Own Employees Agree
    06:58 - This Isn't "Drama" & Risks
    09:05 - Bad Data from Linus Tech Tips
    10:12 - GPU Review Errors
    15:02 - CPU Cooler Test Errors
    19:09 - PSU Review Errors
    19:53 - CPU Review Errors
    22:39 - Asterisked Errors
    26:15 - Ethical Concerns: Irresponsible Actions & Conflicts
    28:21 - Ethical Concerns: The Review of Billet Labs
    34:49 - Ethical Concerns: 'Not-Review' of Pwnage Mouse
    36:53 - UNACCEPTABLE & The Community is Disturbing
    39:22 - Unfair to Consumers, Manufacturers, & Reviewers
    

    New video after Linus Tech Tips responds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3byz3txpso (only from 00:48 to 12:57 part)

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    I don’t like Linus, the channel’s content is half-assed at best, and there is so much sponsored content and self-promotion that it feels more like a ‘skip-the-ads’ game.

    On the flip side I think it’s good that they shit on Microslop regularly and steer their audience towards Linux. With such a huge ‘normie’ audience, they are helping introduce those normies to the existence of alternative operating systems and apps. Their videos can have momenta that make me smork (either because of something titanically stupid or something clownish). Additionally, I’ve seen some videos of them that have alerted to new projects, hardware or even situations in the tech environment (which I then research in other places, of course).

    I have nothing to say about private jet, political views or orientations.

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    Its just tech entertainment with surface level knowledge at most nothing useful but the vids are fun to watch while I eat something

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    Thin education through entertainment, passing as tech and product reviews. Quality is subjective, but they are the bare minimum right after mkbhd/marques brownlee.

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    LTT always seemed like somebody who doesn’t know wtf they’re talking about, but pretends to and appeals to people who know even less to make them feel smart. I can’t stand the dude.

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      Everyone knows someone like this. Opinions about everything, but talk to them for five minutes and it’s apparent they know nothing.

      LTT is the definition of a mile wide and an inch deep.

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        Linus has literally talked about that multiple times. He learns just enough to cover what is needed for the video, does the video, then forgets most of.