Hi,
I’m interested in setting up a small static-site-generator site. Looked at 11ty recently and feel pretty uncomfortable with the amount of javascript and “funny language” churn just to make some html happen.
Do you know of any alternative that’s simpler / easier / less complicated dependencies? Or do you have an approach to 11ty that you think I should try?
Thanks in advance for any input, it’s appreciated!
Zola. Similar to Hugo, but newer and written in Rust.
I used Zola for a while, but at the end of the day there wasnt enough themes available that fit what I was looking for. I ended up messing with the templating engine to get what I needed.
I suggest OP choose Hugo over Zola, in the hopes that they find a theme that suits them best and for the most part prevents them from having to touch templating to begin with.
Codeberg Pages if you don’t mind a give-or-take weekly 30 min downtime. GitHub Pages if you do. GitLab Pages if you have a creditcard which they require to verify your identity.
I recently switched to Codeberg Pages and it’s the first time I’m hearing about a weekly downtime. Is there somewhere this is documented or I can read more about it?
Seconded. OP, if you can write Markdown, Hugo will turn it into a website.
Do you know if hugo blogs can federate?
No, hugo does not federate.
Another deer!? 😱
Thank you for the recommendation!
And best of luck with the repair. That’s a crazy bill estimate.
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I did try setting up 11ty, despite my misgivings over node.js. Using Markdown went OK, except it wouldn’t render explicit <img> tag parameters to allow me to do one-off formatting.
What templating languages do you know already, and are you running 11ty v3? There are some gotchas around images because (I think) the eleventy-image plugin is enabled by default.
I’ve found success running with
.webc
which is effectively HTML until you need it to be more.Thank you for the advice! I’ll give webc a look before I check out the alternative platforms.
I don’t know or really want to learn anything other than html/css or markdown. The site I’m trying to migrate was raw html/css, and I liked it well enough even though the shortcomings (and argument for template stuff) is very obvious.
I use Hugo and I’ve been pretty happy with it. It has a lot of layout templates you can use out of the box so you don’t need to learn a new templating language unless you want to do customizations. I write blogs in markdown and it’s automatically rendered and published.
But as soon as you do want to customize it, you’re stuck learning one of the most esoteric languages that wasn’t meant as a joke.
Thanks for the heads up. That feels like the same roadblock I got with 11ty. It ran OK on markdown, but one you dig into how wide the customizations go I couldn’t keep up.
I used Hugo for my portfolio site, and it’s great if you like an existing theme, but making one from scratch is a challenge. The documentation is unclear and there’s a chicken and egg problem about how to learn Hugo.
The go templating is OK, I prefer other syntax but it works.
Good to know. Thanks!
Use Publii, it has a WYSIWYG editor, a block editor and a markdown editor. It creates the files on your PC and can upload it to your server. Just point your webserver to the uploaded folder.
Very beginner friendly ☝🏻
Thanks for the recommendation!
I found pelican to be quite simple to start with and depending on how deep you want to go it can be quite customizable. Being proficient in python helps.
Have you checked out grav https://learn.getgrav.org/17/basics/what-is-grav
https://github.com/getgrav/grav
I use it just to make simple markdown sites for info like my gaming servers or if I feel like making a random blog post
Thanks for the recommendation. I actually did look at grav a while back, but I can’t recall why I moved on. Will give it another pass.
Technically Grav is not a static site generator, it is just a flat file cms. It means there is no need to generate all the files of website and upload them to server each time you write a post. I have no idea why people like static sites for blogging.
Use rsync and only upload the files that have changed.
As the sibling comment says, not a static site generator. If you want to customize pretty much anything about the layout or theming you still need to use Twig, CSS and if you’re unlucky JS.
It’s a GUI app that runs on your local system and pushes sites to a server.
Thank you for the recommendation!
I’m planning on porting my Wordpress site to this. I haven’t used it yet but based on what I’ve read it will be easier than Hugo.
https://www.sphinx-doc.org/ + https://pradyunsg.me/furo/ theme + https://myst-parser.readthedocs.io/ markdown parser + https://sphinx-design.readthedocs.io/ extensions.
Just drop all your markdown files in a directory and run
sphinx-build
. Highly customizable but also works out of the boxI like using Hugo at present
Thanks for the recommendation!
I used an LLM… Took me about an hour to set up a cicd pipeline in cloudflare pages which pulls code on change from my GitHub
The LLM guided me through that part too…
Then I used Cursor to make the thing. It actually performed really well. Just told it to make it look like medium.com since I like that clean look.
Entirely ai generated, blog post too.
I want to second Pelican for Python. Really easy to set up and get going. No need to learn a complicated templating language (it’s jinja2, which is what everything uses).
Thanks for the recommendation!