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    Once EVs become the main type of vehicles sold, sellers will lower quality to ‘encourage’ you to replace them more often.

    Every industry starts off like this and ends off like that.

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      Its muuch easier to start an EV company than a combustion one tho. Also modding of old cars into EVs is a thing. It will happen but not as extreme as with combustion ones i think. Especially because chinese ones tend to be less enshittified.

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        The Chinese ones tend to be less enshittified? Having just recently about how Xiaomi cars disable software updates if you change the headlights, allow me to doubt that.

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          The ones from smaller company can be, from what i have been told. Its kinda like with knockoff electronics products where you can get a carbon copy or better version of an arduino for a fraction of the price. You might have to look, but they exist. Here they just dont at all. With phones its pretty bad sadly but with other things you can often get dope open hardware manufactured designs of all sorts of stuff.

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            That may be ok for an Arduino, but for a car I’d really like to be able to get support, which may be tough with a smaller provider, unless they really use generic components and document their stuff decently, which I’d really have to be convinced about. And let’s not even get into the software support.

            And I write this from my 2yo old Fairphone 4, which I plan to degoogle during the holidays, while I sit in front of my 7yo Thinkpad.

            I use Arch BTW.

            Edit: And my chinese vacuum cleaner runs Valetudo.

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              I just wanna be able to easily hack my car tbh. (Lmao “i” dont even have or want one) I want there to be car nerds like with combustion cars but for electric ones. While for normal consumers that might not be important, it is very important for the people that you hire to repair it for you. Right to repair is specifically important for repair shops. Documentation would be cool, but lets start by not putting DRM into cars to actively prevent repair.

              Also CalyxOS on FP4 is great, very easy to install and no issues so far.

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                It’s a sign of how bad the situation is that we talk about car repairs in terms of hacking.

                Documentation should be mandatory, and DRM on this stuff mostly forbidden.

                For the FP4, I think I’m going to go for e/OS, because of the official Android Auto support. I want to degoogle, not root, and most other OSs require quite a bit of mess to get AA to work.

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        less about easy to start an EV company (honestly you can buy engines, so that’s not really the hard part; manufacturing is, as tesla found out the hard way) and more about it being easy to build an EV from almost nothing… you can ram batteries and electric motors into almost any body as you pointed out, so if a company makes junk it’s pretty easy to replace bits with whatever you like, and since electrons are electrons are electrons, your battery, motors, etc only have to kind of match