I got distracted from my work so I made some Continuwuity propaganda. Continuwuity is a lightweights Matrix chat server that you can self-host pretty easily. Give it a try :3

  • FrowingFostek@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I don’t mind the name. It’s pride month so I figure the community would turn the silly up a notch.

    Im not a tech person but, I’m gonna try it out. Thanks OP.

  • Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    2 months ago

    How do I actually create an account? I’ve tried deploying a test server but when I try to create an account with Element X it just says the server needs to be upgraded to support matrix authentication service and account creation. FluffyChat doesn’t let me create an account either, it just shows me a login page.

    As I’m just testing the federation port isn’t actually accessible, would that break account creation or do you have to use the console to create accounts? I’ve never used matrix before

    • Jade@programming.devOPEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Element X doesn’t support the traditional way of making accounts, try use cinny.in to make an account in the browser and then log in with element X. Fluffychat should also present a “create a new account” button above the login button. Make sure to follow instructions in the console for registering the first account.

      The federation port not being accessible won’t break local functionality but will break federation, so you won’t be able to talk with other people. Either change the configured port in the well-known file or forward the port via your reverse proxy.

      I’d suggest joining the support room via an alt account, you’ll get faster responses.

  • litchralee@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    2 months ago

    This is the homeserver written in Rust, right?

    A suggestion: wherever a QR code is included, the human-readable content should be included next to it. Not everyone has a QR code reader handy, or their reader has the bad habit of immediately opening links or apps. In this case, I see that it just goes to https://continuwuity.org/ and is benign, but others may be apprehensive at naked QR codes.

    • Denys Nykula@piefed.socialEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Agreed that QR codes should be accompanied by text links for accessibility, because many times the scanning fails due to bad light, old camera or shaky hands.

    • Jade@programming.devOPEnglish
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      2 months ago

      It is!

      Yeah, I see your point, and I included the link in the alt text. On the actual design itself though, any URL I wrote in could be completely different from the QR so it seems slightly pointless - especially as it would just be writing Continuwuity a third time haha

      • notabot@piefed.socialEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Including the URL isn’t to act as a check on the contents of the QR code, but to act as an alternative for those who don’t want to scan it at all.

          • litchralee@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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            2 months ago

            This is not a good idea: having to search means an implicit reliance on a search engine. Even with a trustworthy web search – and those are becoming fewer and fewer – why add this complication?

            Even worse is when there’s an adversary: what would stop someone from buying getcontinuwuity.org but have it be pro-Big Tech propaganda, with tracking cookies galore, and then pay Google or Bing to put it at the top of the web search results?

            Whereas in 2026, a URL is not confusing at all to include. Even big brands might not own their own product name’s domain. This exact problem came up just six days ago: https://www.neowin.net/news/paintnet-can-finally-be-downloaded-from-the-right-place/

          • Kilgore Trout@feddit.itEnglish
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            2 months ago

            I know you are in good faith (and I already run my continuwuity server!), but in ppractical terms you are suggesting to use Google, and I don’t want to. Expecially for something you could have included in text in the post.

            edit: I am reminded of Richard Stallman spelling out full URLs during conferences, complete with subdirectories. It is silly, but it works.

      • SayCyberOnceMore@feddit.ukEnglish
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        2 months ago

        I can see a lot of opinions & comments on the QR part and, with respect, I’d like to add that I’m reading this post on a device where I’d like to view the site on the same device, so a QR isn’t best for this platform.

        I’d go a little further and say that QRs and really only useful for a mediim where you want the user to use a 2nd device (printed media, BSODs, etc)

        Also putting the URL in the (for my reader) non-clickable alt-text doesn’t help either

        Again, with respect, you’re making it harder for your audience to reach you, not easier.

    • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
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      2 months ago

      I was very excited when I started seeing QR codes gaining popularity. That excitement was quickly shattered when everyone just started using them improperly and they just made everything more annoying 😮‍💨

        • morto@piefed.socialEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Putting simple things behind a qrwall. I once went to a presentation and they had that qr code to scan to get the certificate, and I went there without my phone, so I got no certificate I needed it for academic bureaucracy). restaurants with qr-only menus also come to mind. Oh, I also saw once a school with the timetables mural with just qrs and nothing else written, so if new students didn’t have a phone AND mobile internet, they couldn’t find by themselves where and when their classes took place

        • KingKong33@lemmy.mldeleted by creatorEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Lots of people use Lemmy via mobile. How am I supposed to scan a QR code?

          • Hawke@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 months ago

            Print it out and scan it. Use a barcode reader. Use another mobile. Upload it to a barcode decoder website.

            • KingKong33@lemmy.mldeleted by creatorEnglish
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              2 months ago

              Or I could just scroll past it and not give them the time of day because they were too lazy to post a link, you know, the primary method for navigating the internet for decades now. Why the need to overly complicate things?

                • KingKong33@lemmy.mldeleted by creatorEnglish
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                  2 months ago

                  Point being, if you can’t be arsed to do the bare minimum and post a fucking link, why should anyone give your post a second look?

  • Beacon@fedia.io
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    2 months ago

    Why do useful FOSS things always have the worst names that make it hard to spread.

    • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Lots of folks also like the unmarketable names, because you know that it’s not a corporate project. You’re hearing about it, because it’s actually good, and not just because some startup got VC money to do marketing.

      Heck, the reverse is true as well. This project is better specifically because it has that name. You just know some transfemmes are tirelessly hacking away at it, because they enjoy the silly name.

    • Flipper@feddit.orgEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Well, it startend with conduit. That was a respectable name. The development slowed down and someone wasnt happy abput not getting pr merged. Then it got forked to conduwuit.

      Speed picked back up. There was later a massive meltdown for some reason. To successors emerged continuwuity and tuwunel.

      • Beacon@fedia.io
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        2 months ago

        There’s almost always a backstory for why the makers choose the name they did, but that doesn’t change the harmful result. A bad name seriously limits how much the software will ever get adopted. Heck, if there was a FOSS project i cared about enough then i would fork it and keep everything the same except give it a more palatable name.

  • Shimitar@downonthestreet.euEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Love and use this!

    Solid, fast, amazing experience… A breeze to setup as well… Quite another thing than Synapse.

  • solrize@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Well thanks for at least explaining what it is, but isn’t Matrix already self hostable? Anyway what’s wrong with IRC?

    • sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net
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      2 months ago

      It’s based on conduit, which itself is really a lot better for self-hosting than synapse or dendrite.

      I ran conduit on an atom d2550 alongside other services and it basically idled. Running synapse or dendrite on the same machine made the whole machine max out permanently.

      Irc is fine, but not federated…

  • arcine@jlai.luEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Matrix’s algorithm is fundamentally broken. I guess it works if you only talk to people you know won’t abuse it, but otherwise it’s easy to split rooms or even re-write their history if you want to…

        • u_tamtam@programming.devEnglish
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          2 months ago

          It’s not as dramatic as GP makes it, but Matrix had been at the prototyping stage and at figuring out its core protocol and state resolution algorithm for more than a decade now, it’s pretty ridiculous in itself.

          • Jade@programming.devOPEnglish
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            2 months ago

            Posting a 3 coming on 4 year old post, of course it’s not going to be accurate any more. And that’s for the points that aren’t just fear mongering in the first place.

            • Redaction exists and removes the contents of events, while keeping metadata needed for the functionality of the room.
            • Any program can handily ignore deletion - back when I used discord I had a handy plugin to view deleted messages for moderation, for example.
            • Badly behaving servers can behave badly and it will not affect correctly behaving ones, they will apply redactions as expected.
            • “Room joins leaves, etc are permanently a part of the room’s history” well yeah, that’s expected. You can upgrade a room if you want to start from scratch there.
            • We can now prevent spammers from ever entering the room with join gates, among other things - but if you’re not running a big public community, then our antispam tech is probably completely unnecessary for you
            • Currently, timeline ordering is defined by the server. Continuwuity uses a simple, understandable and secure scheme - it orders by the time your server receives messages.
            • As per the above point, this doesn’t affect Continuwuity
            • That’s a tradeoff of allowing public rooms with tens of thousands of people in the same app as end-to-end encrypted DMs. Good job Matrix isn’t really meant to be a Signal competitor.
            • this point was relevant… Four years ago. You’ll only encounter issues if you’re using a broken server or ancient client now.
            • “Started trying to filter recently” god you can tell how outdated this is
            • It defines it pretty damn strictly now, and this isn’t an issue in practice for a very long time.
            • Mmm yeah I don’t think you’re particularly likely to experience one of those in day-to-day usage.
            • and this is false lol
            • Ancient and fixed
            • False. There are many ways to do this.
            • I’ve never encountered this, and it’s impossible in new rooms versions.
            • Aand outdated by years again
            • see above
            • see above
            • see above
  • ragingHungryPanda@piefed.keyboardvagabond.comEnglish
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    2 months ago

    somebody: makes anything
    lemmy: we hate this

    I love how the culture of the fediverse is consistent. it hates everything, everywhere, all at once, and all of the time.

    I tried to get my friends off of reddit on it and that’s what they always commented about, so they’ll never join.

    I use the continuwuity server. Thank you to the devs for all of the hard work!

    • Midnight Wolf@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      I was under the impression that they preferred to be referred to as ‘skinnies’. We are all flesh, after all… well except protogen…

  • B0rax@feddit.orgEnglish
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    2 months ago

    ITT: people complaining about the name. Nothing else negative.

    Which to me sounds like it must be a damn good software.

      • Bilb!@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Unless I’m mistaken, this is just a matrix server. If you were using Dendrite, you wouldn’t say “hey let’s try dendrite,” you would say “let’s try Matrix, here’s my server.”

        At least, that’s how I would say it. Server software choice is details they would not care about and would likely cause confusion.

  • amgine@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Does it have easy gif embedding like discord? I tried another chat app and it felt so stripped down without gifs or emojis