I’m a Windows guy since forever and I recently got into selfhosting. So far its a blast! Are posts about that welcome here?

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    2 months ago

    One step at a time, you will eventually move to GNU/Linux in the future if this new hobby persist. But there is nothing wrong with beginning using software and tools you are already familiar with. However you will probably have to use WSL (Linux inside Windows basically) to make things work and all guides you will find will mostly be based on Docker and/or Linux. So you will definitely use Linux on your Microslop owned machine.

    If you don’t have the time to learn a new OS it’s fine, but it will not necessarly make things easier, especially on the long run. That’s my take on it.

    My very first self-hosting homelab was a Linux Mint old refurbished desktop PC that I was remotely accessing through AnyDesk (I was a Windows kid user at that time). Now I’m on NixOS through SSH and still learning, I do not completely comfortable but I am able to use it and learn while doing so.

    I would highly encourage you to try to run a lightweight beginer friendly Linux distro such as debian, Linux Mint XFCE or Kubuntu if you feel like you need a desktop environement and graphic user interfaces but if you really want to use that Microslop license you bought it’s fine, you will probably switch in the following months or years. Okay maybe not, some people are fine using it.

    You can also take a look at stuff like runtipi, yunohost, CasaOS, ZimaOS, Umbrel, Cloudron and stuff like that. They aim to be beginner friendly self-hosting “OS” or “WebUI”.

  • SGG@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I would recommend at most ruining windows as the hypervisor then running Linux virtual machines. Maybe run a windows VM if you have a specific need.

    This is mainly because Linux is much better “supported” for the majority of self hosted projects.

    But you can of course do whatever you want.

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    2 months ago

    Always. Started on windows hypervisors and windows as they were relevant to my work and I was trying to skill up at the time. Since moved to a Linux stack as the lab grew in scope and my distaste for MS grew as well.

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        2 months ago

        Verily. Especially after working with heavily windows/MS environments for a decade and change. Intune makes my blood boil.

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    2 months ago

    Temporary becomes permanent. When I was experiencing severe long-term symptoms of Covid, I bought a refurbished computer to use as a NAS with Jellyfin, Sonarr, and indexers. I kept the installed Windows 10 because I simply did not have the energy to do more. Then, when I felt better, I told myself, “Let me add more services.”

    Now, it’s a Frankenstein computer where Windows 10 acts as the hypervisor, running Caddy as my reverse proxy. Crowdsec protects my services, and my Flint 2’s firewall acts as the Crowdsec bouncer. A VirtualBox VM runs in Windows 10 and hosts most of my Docker containers. Stablebits DrivePool manages my drive pool.

    I’ve been running this setup for over a year, and I haven’t had any issues. I know I should switch to Linux, but since it’s been working great and I’m busy, I’ve been procrastinating.

  • clifmo@programming.dev
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    2 months ago

    Welcome sure, but few and far between. Check out JimsGarage on YouTube. He does a lot of windows selfhosting content

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    2 months ago

    They better be! I’ve got a mix of proxmox running Windows and Linux machines, as well as a bare metal Windows machine for streaming gaming, as wells as Linux laptops to access all this.

    … My only shame is using Windows server to host my DHCP server.

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    2 months ago

    Sure ! But… How !? I don’t have even the first idea how you’d host… Almost anything on Windows 😅 and I would be concerned by the power consumption of any non-minimalist OS.

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      2 months ago

      My ESXi box draws 20 watts at idle with 3 Windows VMs and 3 Linux VMs.

      Guess which of those VMs draws the most power (hint: it’s not Windows).

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        2 months ago

        Did you install the guest tools and set the CPU governor to the correct scheduler? Do the Windows boxes host the same applications as the Linux boxes?

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        2 months ago

        +1 for Hyper-V, despite being glitchy and only sustaining Home Assistant for about 12 hours this and VirtualBox were my best chance at self hosting VMs on a Windows host. The problem wasn’t the virtualization, but the rest of the OS and its persistent maintenance cycles. Antivirus (MsMpEng.exe) and its NTFS scanning running more and more resources until the CPU was clogged. OP has gotta start somewhere.

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          2 months ago

          Oh I was suggesting a the free standalone hyper v server MS did but I just searched for it and it looks like they killed it off recently which sucks. Was probably the best MS os going.

  • Pope-King Joe@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    My homelab is a mishmash of Windows and Linux machines. The primary game server is Windows and the rest others are Linux.

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      2 months ago

      I was at this point for a while, believing gaming on Linux wasn’t up to par, until I discovered that Linux has a decent translation layer (Proton/Wine) that means even though the vast majority of Steam games are Windows only, Steam or other launchers like Heroic just run them in a container, and from my experience none of my games have had issues. This has only improved massively over the years.

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        2 months ago

        I’ve experimented with OpenBSD in the past, but it was back when I was solely a Windows kid before embracing and clicking with Linux. It just never really meshed with me.

  • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    I self-hosted Plex and Jellyfin on Windows. It’s fine. But as others have said, Windows machines tend to be too power-hungry. Honestly I think that’s more a symptom of x86-64. Changing the OS from Windows to Linux does not magically change the power needs of the hardware. (However, Linux tends to demand less of the hardware, especially if there’s no GUI.)

    I now self-host Plex on a Mac mini (M2 Pro, 16GB RAM/512GB SSD). M2 Pro in Intel speak is like i5 as in, it’s the “next one up” and “good enough for most people” but not the low entry into the platform (M# base or i3), though I’d say M4/M5 base is better than M2 Pro. Just like going 2-3 generations newer, the i3 gets closer to and may surpass an older i5.

    There’s a reason self-hosters prefer Linux, but I’d think it would be more about the hardware than the software. Windows is problematic because you’re opening ports and Windows is a target due to its massive market share. Mac is kinda (/sorta /not really) UNIX based, and Linux is, well, it’s Linux; neither is bulletproof, but both are better than Windows because they’re not really being targeted. That said, the MacBook Neo and Mac Mini going for $500 if you’re a student, $600 otherwise is getting a lot of people sick of Microslop’s BS to switch, and the Neo in particular is forcing the PC market to get competitive as macOS market share is rising — this also makes it more of a target. You’re always at some risk online and a little common sense goes a long way.

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    2 months ago

    Sure, but know you’re doing things the hard way. I started with Win 10, WSL, and Docker Desktop but moving to Linux made things 10x easier, Windows is… difficult.

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      2 months ago

      I agree with this comment. Switching to Linux, with minimal experience, has been so much easier than trying to arse around with Docker Desktop on Windows.

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    2 months ago

    I self hosted windows for many years, mostly because that is what I used at work. I liked it because it hid some of the low level details and worked most of the time.

    The thing that finally made me switch was the exorbitant cost of licenses and the need to run services on older hardware.

    DM me if you want some keys. I have a few copies of win10 and winIOT laying around that I’m not going to use.

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      2 months ago

      Being a former pure windows guy it’s more like battered wife syndrome.

      Its an abusive relationship but its all you know and hard to leave.

      I’m on bazzite now with a Debian homelab on a SFF.

      Still really new to Linux but I’m trying.

      • ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 months ago

        Good for you. If the way Windows behaves now doesn’t drive people to Linux, they’ll never jump. They’ll just keep taking the abuse because they like it.

        I don’t understand starting out on Linux in an immutable distro, but maybe that’s the oldhead in me, I’ve been on Linux since the 90s. I find adding software in those distros to be a massive pain in the ass, as well as dealing with its constraints on configurability. But if it’s working for you, fill your boots. Welcome to the dark side.

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          2 months ago

          My daily driver is bazzite. It’s my web surfing gaming box.

          I got a Linux mint laptop to fuddle with as well. Thats where I break things.