Antinatalists constantly tell people to kill their offspring.
Some do, sure, but that’s what what antinatalism is. This is like saying “vegans constantly tell meat eaters to kill themselves.” Yes, some do, but the point of veganism isn’t the death of meat eaters.
I argue on the same level as antinatalists.
No, you argue on your deranged level by justifying it with your antinatalist boogey man. You’re like those YouTube conservatives who put up a picture of a blue haired teenager on screen and saying “this is who the liberals are.”
If the cause is to end the suffering that humankind causes then there is only one solution.
This is like saying the way to end violence done in the name of religion is to kill off all religious people. There’s more that goes into getting to an end solution than just immediately jumping to it. And it also seems like you think antinatalists entire existence is about making antinatalism, like there’s nothing else besides this.
If my notions of the world are wrong, and humankind really is only a burden, then youre indirectly also calling for genocide.
You seem to not know what the word “natalism” means. It’s about bring people into the world. It has nothing to do with people who are already living.
And killing off all living people isn’t a genocide. It’s “speciocide.” Completely different things. Comparing antinatalists with people who commit genocides is unbelievably unhinged, but I should have seen it coming from someone like you.
You think that isn’t fucked up?
The only thing I think is fucked up in this discussion is people who only believe in antinatalism-lite for eugenic reasons and, of course, you.
So if you were truly commited to your cause and you wanted your bloodline to die with you, then you could also [i do not condone selfharm, this is purely for argumentation].
I don’t have a cause. You’re putting words into my mouth because you don’t know how to argue in good faith.
You’re literally telling me to kill myself because you’re personally offended someone dare challenge your preconceived notions of the world. You’re a truly fucked up individual. I pray you don’t have or ever have any dependents. You’re a danger to society.
I think you might be glamorizing it a bit. Talking about politics was until “recently” considered very rude and taboo. There’s been a big culture shift in talking about politics in the past maybe 15-20 years or so. I don’t have any hard data and this is just my view, but I think a major turning point was when a lot of the country realized how fucked up the wars in the Middle East were. This put people squarely into two pretty emotional camps, pro-war and anti-war. Everyone* had an opinion. Everyone* was open about sharing that opinion. Over those few years 2003-2008 was probably the biggest shift in openly talking about politics among regular people. And since being open about politics was now in, here came the wave of loud and proud racism from “centrists” and conservatives once Obama was elected and it hasn’t died down since.
So, yeah, it’s real easy for discussions to get “hot” when one side is openly calling for all the -isms in the book and people on the other side finally realizing what’s happening.
I said parents are selfish for having kids. You can try to downplay it all you want, but you don’t have a kid for this future magical mystical kid. You have a kid for your own wants and needs over everything else. Just because having kids is an accepted action in society doesn’t make it not selfish. And since you think of “selfishness” as a bad thing, this makes your brain scramble and your cognitive dissonance go into overdrive causing you to come up with completely inept retorts like I’m “selfish” for simply existing and using resources that the Earth clearly has as I’m using them.
You can say that having kids is selfish, which it objectively is (no matter if they’re perfectly healthy/wealthy/on top of society or not), but also want to “build a society and world that will accept us, accommodate to us, liberate people and save the planet.”
Focusing on just kids with disabilities and not every kid is fucked though, with a lot of these people in these spaces.
There’s no other way to put it, having kids is extremely selfish.
It’s pretty much the epitome of selfishness.
I want to clarify though, this isn’t to say that calling only people who to have kids who happen to have disabilities “selfish.” Every single parent is extremely selfish (excluding some outliers, obviously, don’t “um actually” me).
Apple isn’t okay. Apple is forced onto developers. The general population using Apple products requires developers to use Macs. And, last time I checked, it’s a lot easier carrying around one laptop than two. It also doesn’t hurt that Apple products aren’t exactly the quality of off-brand Chinese laptops.
If you care enough, just open it up in a private window or a new profile. Also, unless you don’t want whoever is between you and their server (if anyone is) knowing you watched a TikTok video of a woman going around asking other woman what their car payments are, bad SSL settings is whatever.
There have to be people living in capsule hotels in Japan. There are people in Japan living in computer cafes, where the lights are on 24/7. Japan isn’t all sunshine and roses. Tons of people barely hanging on and these cheap ass places let them have at least some sort of dignity. If you work any job in Japan, odds are you’ll have a roof over your head. Same can’t be said in the US, where many homeless people have jobs and can’t afford to be protected from the elements.
Everyone here is an “open-source Linux nerd” because they hate Windows. The only people who hate Windows are "open-source Linux nerds.” You are very smart.
You think everyone who upvotes or participates in the bashing of Microsoft is a “open-source Linux nerd”? You think people who use Windows love Windows and love their business practices and don’t have a history of being shafted?
I see more comments like this than comments of these boogeyman you guys speak of. You guys are doing your own little circlejerk, thinking you’re cool and smart.
I had to fire up a Windows VM yesterday. Holy shit its gotten so bad. Glad I don’t need to deal with that shit on a daily basis anymore. I wish people weren’t so scared of Linux.
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