Authorities brought 20 police cars, five SWAT officers, and drones to her house
https://www.twitch.tv/grammacrackers/clip/CharmingSolidNoodleKevinTurtle-CCpMMy7EX_W4v7_S
update: Found this video from local news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGeb3cuqLxE
what do you even have to say on the phone for them to send 20 cars bro
Props to Grannycrackers for handling the aftermath with such grace and humour. Not sure I would be half as composed as her. (Or half as chuffed at getting to ride in a police car.) Hope she smashes her fundraising target.
Looking forwards to the news of the arrest of the no-lifer who swatted her.
Yeah. The best possible outcome after a situation like this is the victim not being harmed in any way, so the perpetrator is denied the satisfaction of causing harm.
You’d be surprised at how many old people request to be arrested by the police, it’s like a thrill ride for some of them.
Reminder that SWAT was created in response to the black panthers. It’s a Jim Crow tool for dealing with uppity blacks that know their rights.
As always ACAB
I did not know that, so thank you for sharing. I’m disappointed, but not surprised to learn this
After reading this, and then checking the video, I was surprised that the victim was white.
I really hope, they find out who swated her and jail them.
How the fuck is swatting even a thing?
Can just anyone call the police, yell “BOMB AT X ADDRESS!” and they just show up, tear down doors and throw you to the ground???
All, without repercussions???
Not only without repercussions, but without reparations. Anything destroyed or damaged is on the owner to replace/fix, including the pile of splinters formerly known as “door”.
What else are they going to do with all of that excessive money and time…and desire to shoot people?
Pretty cool way of collecting OT too… kitting up with the boys, kicking doors down, shouting at grandmas…
Police? Work? Nah
Gotta test this bearcat somehow!
In my state there is a law that makes false call to 911 a criminal offense. If someone says “there is a bomb” on such call, that makes it more serious offence because this will cause public alarm. If the person making such call is stupid enough to do it from their phone, they will likely be identified and prosecuted. And people doing stupid things tend to be that stupid.
I’m not sure about damages caused by the raid, though. SWAT doesn’t know if the threat is real or not, so they can’t be held liable. Probably the victim can sue the caller, if they’ve been found…
How about the police do, idk, like 5 min of police work to verify literally any part of the story first?
Exactly. They treat this like a bomb threat when the perpetrator gets arrested, but completely gloss over the fact that the police are “the bomb” in this scenario and as human beings, they have full agency over their own actions. They should most definitely spend 5 minutes to determine the real situation but they dont because they never face accountability and just go off of whatever some random caller told them, especially when it means playing soldier.
things like this can often be very time sensitive, beyond that exactly how would they verify it?
Uvalde was time sensitive and real and yet we have video of police standing around in the hallways scrolling through Facebook on their phones while children were being murdered just feet away. Those pigs didn’t face any accountability. Don’t forget police took cases all the way to the Supreme Court to have it declared that they have zero duty to protect people.
Call people in the neighborhood, ask if anything is off? Send in a single car to scope out the scene, while keeping reinforcements in the wings? Ask 911 where the call originated, and adjust expectations based on that?
At least two of these things can be done while the police begins to move towards the destination, as intel gathering doesn’t require policeman to be making the inquiries, just support staff.
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Fact of the matter, is that American police are the same breed of ‘warrior’ that Pete Hegseth is: Bloodthirsty, undisciplined, incompetent, and in service to powers of capital and hate, not the citizens they are supposed to serve.
Like what? Do you have an example?
I don’t really believe that swat is necessary even in theory.
If someone is being held hostage, call in a negotiator. If it’s a bomb, bomb squad. What precisely is the swat team for?
That’s crazy talk!
Exactly, like asking “is the caller even in the same area? Who lives there? Is this place usually agitated?” Which seems like they would need to know before going in anyway…
They did, by asking chatgpt.
Yeah, exactly, that’s exactly how it happens. It’s so fucking dumb.
Cops live for that shit dude. They do it themselves for fun every once in a while, this just makes the excuses easier for them.
Just here to point out that it’s not normal for a military response to some rando calling in a hit on someone’s house.
A normal response is a check by a single police car with two officers. One to knock on the door and ask questions. The other to remain with the vehicle to call in any issues.
This is a police state.
They probably reported to the operator an excess of melanin at the residence.
It really depends on what the call in was.
If someone says there’s an active threat and their life is in danger, sending 1 car would would be gross negligence and a danger to the officers.
Now, this call, seems excessive. I dont know what would warrant that response even if it was an active threat.
Yeah, you send one car first and have the other ready. It’s insane to send 20 cars instantly for an unverified anonymous tip. Idc if the caller said there’s an army of cannibals killing dozens of people, it’s still an unverified anonymous tip. If it’s real you’ll get more phone calls or the first car will radio it in.
That’s an argument to be made, but I don’t believe that is true at all. Sending one car to check on the safety/welfare of one active threat seems an entirely reasonable balance of risk. An unverified active threat is not at all the same as a confirmed active threat. That should be obvious simply by the existence of “swatting” as a common term and act these days.
It is not the duty of police to protect people from eminent harm, they have argued this themselves in court. Their job is strictly punitive, again an argument they have made in court many times. They only pretend to “protect and serve” when it suits their agenda of justification for their over inflated budgets. This isn’t a public safety issue. It’s a class warfare issue.
Takes a special kind of asshole to swat a little old lady for trying to host a wholesome gaming stream for a good cause.
The fact that swating still happens just proves how much of a joke policing is in general. The fact that you can get a bunch of gun-wielding adrenaline junkies to show up somewhere, frothing at the mouth for violence, in the most spurious of ways is a damning indictment for the whole institution.
Yet they won’t do a damn thing if someone is actually assaulting you.
Probably shoot you and the aggressor since keeping themselves safe is the priority in their training.
I still believe that “defund the police”, is the correct choice. The whole damn thing has to go.
If you don’t have someone authorized by the state to enforce laws, you’re still going to get people enforcing “laws”, it’s just going to be vigilantes, people with grudges, etc. Just look how frequently you see incidents of road rage. Cops basically exist to prevent people from taking revenge into their own hands.
Take all those incidents of people calling the cops on black men having a picnic or taking their dogs for a walk. If there were no cops, do you think these white “Karens” would just leave the black men alone? Or do you think they’d get together and lynch them?
I think the US needs to scale its policing way back. It needs mental health specialists to respond to certain kinds of calls. The person who responds to a report of a stolen bike probably shouldn’t have a gun. But, at some point you are going to need people who will use physical force to enforce the law. Those people should be heavily supervised by a truly independent body. But, they still need to exist in some form.
Cops basically exist to prevent people from taking revenge into their own hands.
No, cops exist to protect capital.
This is just one example too, they’ve issued multiple similar rulings. Also, uh, see: Uvalde.
If there were no cops, do you think these white “Karens” would just leave the black men alone? Or do you think they’d get together and lynch them?
…you think cops keep black people safe? Are you being remotely serious here?
The cops were (and still are) the ones doing the lynching, whether off-duty in white hoods or on duty lol
Yeah for people downvoting this, cops being a problem is largely an American thing. In many other places around the world they are actually beneficial.
Weird how many videos I’ve seen of German police beating anti-genocide protestors and British police arresting seniors for expressing anti-genocide opinions. Maybe that was just an American psyop.
White supremacy is the problem, and America may have the worst case of that, but certainly not the only case.
Yeah, Thunberg was definitely arrested in America. Just, uh, don’t google it.
Cops can be amenable with enough controls, sure, but they ultimately serve capital, man.
Yeah, this is what a lot of people fail to take into account when it comes to the purpose of policing in society. There’s obviously a lot of inherent problems with the way the police are structured in many countries as a whole, but to believe that we can just make do without something like them altogether is pretty shortsighted to say the least. I think that prevents a lot of otherwise sympathetic people from taking the backlash against police institutions seriously.
Yea it’s funny how they just angry downvote, and if they reply at all, they don’t really respond to the points. Who will do the fucking policing if there’s no police??? There will always be people who need to be forcefully stopped from what they’re doing.
I think the idea generally is to replace the police with social welfare programs and unarmed crisis responders, but that’s jumping through so many hoops that it just sounds way too simplistic tbh. It sounds practical, but it treats the problem like it’s something that can be improved with just a few institutions reforming/being abolished.
There’s never been a society without some form of justice system since cruelty is a part of human nature, and at this point these systems are far too intertwined and embedded in our societies for them to change dramatically without some form of societal collapse or retraction.
Idealism is well and good but the things many want in place of police institutions seem like they’re ignoring how complex and non-specific the issues are as a whole. It’s definitely not a one size fits all situation, especially with how many factors there are. People can disagree with me but I’d prefer to hear why at least, there are probably things I’m not considering here.
You don’t know what she did in Minecraft.
(/s)
I heard she made a mob farm of babies
you have to be one sick twisted individual to be swatting a person, let alone a freaking elderly woman
While she’s trying to raise money for her grandkid’s cancer treatment, no less.
Seriously, fuck whoever did this.
And fuck who ever supports a system that results in this…
Systems - both our healthcare and policing
With cancer even with places that do have socialized medical care you might still need a lot of money.
Cancer sucks.
I agree cancer sucks, but how do you need money? There is no fee to access healthcare here.
You get care that is covered, there might still be some drugs and experimental treatments that isn’t. This is because there’s still no actual cure for cancer.
This is why you still can see people collecting money for treatments even when they have socialized medical care.
When your cancer can be treated with already approved treatments then you are golden otherwise you do suffer similarly.
This is not attack on socialized medical care, you are still better than no care, you might still get radiation, chemotherapy etc, it is more attack on situation cancer can create.
There would only be extra costs if you want to go for private treatment
Dark thought, what if a supporter did it, 'cuz that kid is definitely getting their treatment paid for now.
She couldve died, they frequently shoot innocent people and animals during these raids
Swatting is fucked up
The most fucked up thing is that SWAT teams keep falling for it. What fucking information did they have that warranted this level of a response? How the fuck is someone not fired every time this happens?
Damn, it did make the news after all.
Grandma could have died…
Making the mother of all omelettes here, Jack! Can’t fret over every egg!
Why do you think that? Do they mention some kind of payout in the video? It sounds unlikely to me.
No, but the attention they’re getting is probably orders of magnitude bigger after this, and attention=money in this case
I’m afraid “Watch Streamer Get Swatted” is a saturated market. Likely breaking the age record may help though
This was objectively a bad decision, but regardless, none of us would be here talking about this streamer if it hadn’t happened. Most won’t donate, but the more people that see it, the more likely it is that someone will donate.
They didn’t say THAT HAPPENED FOR SURE, they said “dark thought”
You’re allowed to post random thoughts on the internet
If I’m allowed to post thoughts on the internet then why are you yelling at me?
I didn’t yell, I capitalized part of my comment for effect. You can to that on the internet, too! You can also take people’s comments out of context, like you did, but then you’re liable to incur the wrath of some twat correcting you.
We’re in Generation Duh where people think doing this kind of thing is funny. But it’s funny only to them, was thought up of in 2 minutes, then discarded once any attention has been brought to it before they think of the next stupid idea that they think is funny.
Stop being right about that!
Perhaps the problem is the swat teams doing this shit with zero verification.
they share the blame for sure
why a 82 y.o. grandma have to stream to pay for fucking cancer?
This whole story is a series of failures.
Murica!
The greatest nation on earth ladies and gentlemen.
America just cosplaying as a first world country
#Freedom
Because orphans need to be ground and you gotta pay to stop that.
Most people get cancer free of charge. Is there an opt-out in the US or do you just have to pay for cancer whether you want it or not, like taxes?
Kudos to granny for being so positive about it and acknowledging that the cops have to follow up on the calls they receive, but if some anonymous tipster can bring down a SWAT team on some grandma’s house without any kind of check being triggered, that might indicate that there are some problems about how these issues are being handled. Other people may get out of this with much worse than a funny story to tell when two dozen cops decide to visit their house at night.
People have already died from swatting. Faster and cheaper than hiring an assassin.
Once I read they threw a flashbang through the window and it landed in a baby bed with a baby inside, and went off.
Things we don’t want to know…
From the point of contact, or including time to find a good one? A good assassin can be very quick.
I’ll give ya cheaper though. Good work costs good money.
They need to respond, but they need to end the whole “Killology” mindset that American cops are trained into.
Yah, send a car around first to at least glance, maybe try calling them too.
Most american headline ever
Oh this absolutely happens in europe too, just not with such a needlessly large amount of cops. Makes it no less dangerous though.
Do elderly women have to stream videos to pay for cancer treatments? My father has cancer, and all his bills this year add up to €0. Well, sometimes I leave the car in a paid parking lot; in the whole year it’s probably been around €20.
Oh no i meant the swatting part my bad.
I’ve never seen any european police respond to anonymous tips with 20 police cars, SWAT equivalent units or even guns drawn for that matter.
just not with such a needlessly large amount of cops
Hence this part of my comment… like … learn to read boiii
If the child didn’t need money for treatment, granny wouldn’t be on twitch.
sure, but if she streamed for her enjoyment and got swatted, it wouldn’t make a difference
Yes it’s less dangerous (not dangerless obviously), in Europe the swat teams tend to be better trained and way less trigger happy than in USA. Had they busted in there they likely would not have shot an elderly woman found inside, whereas in USA that’s more likely to happen. They don’t just go in and start shooting, otherwise we would have “random kids and women accidentally murdered in a police bust” headlines all the time as well
America has “police by intimidation” as its default response. Most of Europe seems to have “police by consent” as the default.
It leads to a different mentality. They might still roll out the whole cavalry, but it will more likely be led by a polite knock at the door, and an initial attempt to de-escalate.
You’re being a little too optimistic, there. It might not be the same toxic culture, but ACAB.
I have been stopped while doing something illegal that was a minor infraction, but still caught red handed, could have easily been fined, but was let go with a verbal promise to do better and the whole interaction was very civil. Also a few months ago the police recovered stolen items and managed to detective their way to me to return them as well as caught the bastards that did it. The whole process was honestly impressive and the cops I dealt with were just awesome. My interaction with police throughout my life has been at worst neutral but mostly positive. In Europe ACAB is bullshit as far as I’m concerned and anyone who uses it here is memeing after the Americans where it sounds like it’s 100% applicable.
‘Europe’ is a generalisation though. I’m sure this might ring true in Scandinavia and some other northern countries, but might also be a completely different story in Greece, Italy, etc.
I mean, yes, saying ACAB is a blatant generalisation too.
The UK force has its problems, but it functions fairly well. It also has a lot of people in it who honestly want to do a good job.
The problem is the rules and mandates coming down from the government. (And the political upper management level of the police)
They seem to put an inordinate amount of effort into suppressing free speech, prioritizing it over going after actual fucking crimes.
Agreed on that. Though in the scale of the UK there aren’t that many cases. The ones there are however, are (deliberately) high profile. It has a chilling effect on the population, without needing to use it much.
They also hamstring the bobbies via the budget assignments. I know a lot of forces would love to get rid of some of the more overtly racist/sexist/other-ist officers. Their budget limits wages however, which limits the selection of replacements. They end up having to try and weed out the ringleaders (to fire or retire) and split the followers up.
The long and the short, most of the police are working class and do the job to try and make our country better. Some are even trying to counter the bullshit rolling down from on high.
They mentioned in the video more cops came because they wanted to meet the gaming grandma, and they cleared the scene pretty quick.
I don’t think a grandma would have to raise money for cancer treatment in the EU…
It’s only be more American if the cops entered her home and shot her while claiming a controller was a gun
This happens frequently enough where you’d think there would be a system in place to prevent this type of abuse.
But then they wouldn’t get to cosplay as action heroes.
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they now are responsible for potentially more victims.
No they are not. Multiple court cases have exonerated police for failing to respond or not responding quickly enough. See: Uvalde (among many others).
They are trying to play it both ways: not responsible but also must respond in the most over-the-top aggressive manner possible.
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There is Federal precedent on this, actually
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This story is about the U.S. and very distinct aspects of our society (notably our healthcare system and our policing), hence the context of my comment is about the U.S.
Grandmothers in other nations would not have to live stream Minecraft to raise money for their grandchild’s cancer treatment.
“Yabbut other nations” isn’t going to cut it here because you absolutely 100% know that it is irrelevant to the discussion.
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It’s the ol’ “boy who cried wolf” situation. You probably don’t want public services like police and firefighters deciding which calls seem real or not.
K but there has to be some happy medium between 20 swat cars and showing up 2 hours after the pizza driver.
Showing up with 20 swat cars doesn’t mean that there’s 20 swat cars blindly shooting at the house.
There’s no harm on just showing up. As long as they verify the claims before acting on them, I don’t see the issue.
The only issue is that it is expensive and may break a door or something. Which is why the caller should be tracked, and made to pay for all of it.
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It’s really easy to say that when you’re not the one calling the police because there’s an actual madman with a gun holding your loved one hostage. I think it’s a tough situation that, really, has more to do with the overall culture in America than how emergency services respond to particular calls. If the overall level of potential danger was lower due to cultural reasons, I think then we could talk.
Easy to say doesn’t change the fact that it’s true.
Amurica 🦅
Info about Grandma Crackers’ fundraisers for her grandson’s cancer treatment and Phoenix Children’s Hospital.
They also created a crypto token where the fees go to the previously mentioned fundraisers.
Ew crypto
Love it how banks managed to convince everyone that crypto is bad, so they can stay rich and in power of controlling your money.
banks managed to convince everyone
I don’t think banks have been in charge of the countless pump and dump crypto schemes in recent years. And Bankman-Fried (despite his name) wasn’t running a bank.
You know why there’s much less fraud with banks? Because they’re regulated. You know why crypto is not regulated? Because banks don’t want it, it’s bad for business.
And if you think billionaires/bankers won’t do everything in their power to hold on to that power and money, including campaigns to make crypto look bad, and everything in their power to hide their own crimes, you are are heavily misguided.
I didn’t say “banks good”, I said “crypto bros (also) bad”. You don’t think the ones running the crypto schemes are also “greedy corrupt pedophiles”? Maybe you’re “heavily misguided”.
Dude, did you not know that most cryptos, the good ones, are decentralised. Tell me, who owns BTC? Spoiler alert - no one.
Are cryptos perfect? No, but you should really educate yourself about cryptos, beyond the Facebook posts you saw.
Oh, I didn’t know that billionaires are honest and law abiding people. Not some greedy corrupt pedophiles, no no no.
“Please, Mr. Billionaire, take my money, I know you will do good things with it. I’ll even kiss your boots to take my money.”
Nah, they just launder money so it’s OK.
Ever tried buying a loaf of bread with BTC?
Another side benefit to The Drug War, the gift that keeps on giving.
Hundreds of thousands of people are sitting in jails and prisons right now for using. Over three hundred thousand on any given day.
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/pie2026_drugs.html
This holdover from the Nixon era gets a little worse every year. Why do we have TWENTY cars available for any random prank caller?
Are we safe yet?
Don’t you feel fine having what is essentially a para military forced within the USA whose intention is to protect property and not people at all? I know I sure as shit don’t.
I mean… police has always been about protecting the rich…
