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      It will stay up. Do you know how many YouTube videos there are badmouthing Google? They don’t care so long as you’re watching them.

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        All I know is they took down the ones by LTT and Jeff Geerling, I can only assume it was due to the larger audience those two attracted. Now imagine PewDiePie…

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          Linus did 3 videos on “how to degoogle your life” and only 1 was taken down. That one told people how to circumvent YouTube’s platform and monetary system which violated the community guidelines.

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      If it stays up, it’s certainly going to be interesting seeing the difference in view counts between it and his other videos.

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      I don’t care about his content, but I downloaded for historical preservation. If you’re willing to watch can you explain the beef?

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        I just use down sub to pull the transcript from his video It’s only 60% as annoying.

        He has the normal privacy versus cost worries which are reasonably valid. Then he rambles on, plugs a product that he’s shilling that’s unrelated to the subject matter, says he’s replacing Google search with a local LLM, does some hot takes on alternatives, does some reasonable takes on some alternatives.

        To be honest, this is probably the least helpful de-googling video I’ve seen, other than the fact that he’s a major influencer and is telling everyone they should be doing it.

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          this is probably the least helpful de-googling video

          I don’t think it was supposed to be particularly helpful. It’s more of him sharing his passion with his audience. Which isn’t going to be interesting if you don’t care about him.

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            Entirely fair, I generally can’t stand him, hence just reading his caption data :)

            He hit the mark on a few things but his hot takes were pretty hot.

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    People listen to mister nobodies on the internet like they are prophets…

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    If there’s an article with words, can you pass it along? I’m not inclined to go on a Google website and listen to someone slowwwwly tell me why Google is bad.

    Life’s too short to listen to people who talk slow.

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      Articles too much time too, so I made you this

      • Google bad, tracking sucks
      • Android -> graphene
      • Keep -> joplin
      • Docs -> nextcloud
      • Gmail -> proton
      • GMaps -> car GPS
      • Tailscale
      • Selfhosted on SteamDeck
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        • Gmail -> proton

        I recommend Tuta over Proton. They’re much more focused on their core product (not making their own crypto wallet or VPN or storage service or password manager), plus Tuta’s leadership has never endorsed US Republicans, unlike Proton’s

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        I think he actually used something else than proton, he didn’t mention though. Except that he uses his own domain name.

        I drive believe he has started hosting his own email though

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          He emphasized that for him living in Japan and mainly needing to use maps in order to navigate, the japanese car GPS is the best fit.

          Which obviously is very different for people in a different situation.

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    I just subscribbed to him

    For the first time

    Wasn’t interested in his old content but these new videos are fire and he has a very nice personality and overall amazing video quality. I inderstand why he was nmuber 1 for so many years

  • I was actually kinda wondering the other day why super large content creators with good cash flow from what they already do, don’t ditch Google and Patreon or anything else that takes a cut to be nothing more than a middleman to accessing the content? They don’t need to host on the same level as YouTube; they could probably make more money hosting their videos on their own website, where they can control what is free or paid for, and can work directly with advertisers themselves.

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      Putting a video file somewhere and letting 10,000 people watch it at the same time is no small feat.

      You could probably get away with doing it on peer tube but it has no facilities to lock people out or make them pay.

      Even if you don’t use patreon for payments payments aren’t free.

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      Literally all of them have tried at some point. But honestly you just end up with a bunch of effectively streaming services that you have to pay for.

      I already have hbo, Netflix, krangle + and Hulu and YouTube and now I need «randomyoutuber+» x10 too?

      Yeah no thanks

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      Well, there is Nebula, which is kinda like that. But most of them also put their videos on YouTube, using Nebula as the premium ad-free option with a little bonus content.

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        I’m worried about Nebula’s business model being profitable enough to be sustainable in the long term but given their business model includes making every creator on the platform a part-owner of the platform that does limit how bad things can get

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          From everything I’ve heard, they’re already profitable, and are explicitly choosing only to grow in a sustainable way, without taking on outside investment which could force them into enshittifying down the line. With a relative lack of need to show extreme growth, and a lack of reliance on outside factors like advertising (being subscription-based), the only major risk that I can see for them long-term is user churn. Which is definitely a risk, but with the ever-creeping growth of the range of content they have and (at least for now) an attitude of being customer-friendly, churn seems a relatively low risk.

          As far as I can see, at worst, the platform dies if the YouTube channels of the people on the platform die because of the YouTube algorithm, and they get bad churn (with fewer new subscribers because of the aforementioned dead YouTube channels at the top of the funnel), and they don’t get new more successful channels on before that happens. A scenario that’s far from unlikely, but which I would describe as “catastrophic, whether or not Nebula exists today”, so its existence for now as a hedge against more likely bad scenarios is still worthwhile.

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            That’s super cool. I’d love to know more about Nebula’s business practices, do you know where I could find that information? I’ve seen some interviews with their leadership that didn’t go into anywhere near the depth that I’d like and that’s about it

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              Most of this comment was my own speculation based on the details they’ve shared publicly. The details I know of publicly are:

              • The seem to be profitable. Or at least in a relatively sustainable place; they talk about profit a lot, but usually in terms of how the “profit” is split between creators. I forget, maybe the Wendover “history of Nebula” video from a while back talked more specifically about profitability?
              • They’re choosing not to take outside investment. This is something the CEO, Dave Wiskus, talked about particularly with respect to the Lifetime subscriptions, describing those as their option for building up the sort of large amounts of cash that they might otherwise have gone to outside investment for, in order to fund bigger projects
              • The fact that they are, quite visibly, expanding their range of content

              The rest was me speculating about how the business model would seem to work based on those factors plus my limited, layperson’s, understanding of their industry.

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        Sauce plus and dropout as well. Basically run by youtubers to make content without relying on YouTube. A lot of this is running on pre-existing tech for running a streaming service and I assume it’s dependent on AWS (Amazon) hosting but yeah lots of smaller paid streaming services run by youtubers because YouTube sucks. I believe sauce plus is essentially the same as Floatplane on the backend, they mentioned working with LTT to make it.

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      hosting their videos on their own website

      I love that entrepreneurial attitude. If an online service is unsatisfactory, just develop your own software from the ground up and provision the infrastructure from your pocket. Car industry sucks? Just build your own car! GPU prices high? Grab a soldering iron and a handful of sand, how hard could it be?

      Things are always more complex than they appear. The whole point of services like Youtube and Patreon is to offload that complexity onto the provider in exchange for a fee (or some other form of compensation) from the user. Just look at how many early Lemmy instances have gone offline because of the overwhelming financial or administrative burden. Hate the companies all you like, and by all means look for independent solutions, but don’t pretend they offer no value whatsoever.

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      And how do they get big? How do they get discovered? SEO ?

      They’re getting huge because of the platform.

      I’m not saying google is not evil but it literally gives them their audience.

      I watch YT more than anything else by a mile, and if my top subscription moved to their website, and I had to jump through hoops to watch them on my TV device, by installing a browser or something I probably would stop watching them or watch them way less. Another TV friendly app sure that wouldn’t be a problem, but I don’t see many doing that.

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        Yeah, even an established creator is going to have a hard time moving their audience.

        If YouTube weren’t a near monopoly it would be different. Then other companies would be competing for creators.

        Making it worse is section 1201 of the DMCA. It makes it a crime to circumvent access controls. In the past, Facebook was able to grow by providing tools to interface with MySpace. People didn’t have to abandon their MySpace friends, they could communicate with them through Facebook, and Facebook could ensure that messages sent on its platform arrived to people still on MySpace. But, if you tried that today Facebook has access controls in place that make that a crime. The same applies to YouTube. Nobody can build a seamless “migrate away from YouTube” experience because YouTube will use the DMCA to block them.

        The governments of the world need to bring back antitrust with teeth and force interoperability.

      • I’m talking about those who have already gotten big, like PewDiePie or Good Mythical Morning (the latter of which started on their own website before youtube even existed, btw). Not the dude who just started a channel last week and has nothing to do shit with.

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          If they somehow even got 10% of their audience to go to another platform that would be a miracle

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          Still think building their own site with apps I can throw on my devices is pretty involved.

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          YouTube still offers them a service in directing them new viewers. The big creators all lose viewers but YouTube funnels replacement views faster than they lose. They could host their own videos but they are gonna see very little growth without Google either in search or with YouTube as they start to lose the base that followed them.

          They also won’t be able to negotiate as good as rates for pre-rolls or in video sponsorships as if they were on YouTube.

          The only real alternative would be to band together like the creators that are a part of nebula are doing. Hosting on peertube really isn’t an option unless you are independently supported and you are doing it as a passion project and don’t care about audience growth or retention.

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          The lift of running your own platform is big. You just won’t believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist’s, but that’s just peanuts to creating your own video hosting platform.

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            Websites work very well and are scalable af. A plugged in person with a track record like that could go Web 2.0 and probably net more.

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              You are correct. Websites, the stack to supply video encoding, even scalability is a solved problem.

              The hard work isn’t technical, it’s getting people onto your platform in the first place (marketing), getting people to continue using your platform (retention) and the perennial problems of SaaS evolving with other SaaS platforms (how many dev hours are you willing to eat trying to keep up with the Joneses?).

              SaaS, and in this case, SaaS offering content, is a losing game. You will either lose your shirt, sell your business, or become entrenched in a position whose inertia is difficult to break. How much of any of those you are willing to take a firehose of is the question.

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                It’s not easy, but you’re not guaranteed to end up

                either lose your shirt, sell your business, or become entrenched in a position whose inertia is difficult to break

                It depends on the personalities involved and the business model they go with.

                Nebula has done really well with consistent growth as a premium offering where people pay one subscription fee to get ad-free videos from exclusively high-quality creators across a quote broad range of niches, in addition to bonus extras and Nebula Originals.

                Dropout seems to have a lot of success with a range of mostly unscripted comedy, centred around a core cast of trusted comedic actors with a larger range of guests.

                Floatplane, on the other hand, seems much less successful, probably owing to its business model being basically Patreon’s, but only for video. Instead of the wide range of content you get for surprisingly reasonable amounts of Nebula and Dropout, Floatplane ends up looking very expensive if you want to support more than one or two creators. Plus the creators on it haven’t got the same degree of trust; it ends up reeking of the sort of techbro vibes that people are explicitly trying to get away from.

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                  I’m sure these are accurate statements, but the fact remains that I’ve never heard of dropout or nebula. At all.

                  And the only reason I’ve heard of floatplane is via LTT and Jeff Geerling, and I don’t actually use the platform itself.

                  That’s what I mean about inertia, google has it now and can coast for years on people just being lazy and staying with YouTube. That alone will be a loooong hill to climb for any other platforms.

                  LTT seems to have enough clout and has worked out a survivable business model, but notice that they remain on YouTube to capture and keep new views.

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            It’s not that challenging with a partner to help manage infrastructure which even at his scale is not going to cost an obscene amount of money.

            Edit: there’s a very massive difference between a single content creator hosting their content and a site hosting everyone’s content like YouTube as well in terms of cost, infrastructure, security and management.

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      Streaming video is expensive. LTT did it with Floatplane, even going so far as to develop their own backend. Watcher and some other YouTubers did it with Vimeo as their backend, but Vimeo still takes a large cut.

      At the end of the day, people are doing this, but YouTube still offers a compelling value compared to other platforms. It’s hard to beat their scale, sophistication, and the discoverability of their platform.

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        Yeah I know some big german youtubers who years ago were like “we need to be more independent from youtube” and set up their own website. Every year the costs for hosting that would take out a huge cut of their earnings, so at the start of 2025 they finally gave up and said they couldnt pour even more money into that project as it simply wasnt profitable.

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      Just downloaded it and skimmed by frames… Seems to be a list of reasons to degoogle. Mentions privacy, security, and how Google is extending fingers into everyone’s privacy by browser, password manager, wallet, phone, etc.

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        Guy’s an ass, but if this gets people on board with degoogling then good for him.

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          Really didn’t like him when he was younger, he was a naive swedish kid that didn’t realize that the dumb shit he said online had ramifications because his audience was so big. He helped platform Ben Shapiro to a younger generation when he had him on his channel for a video, he had that scandal where he said the n word, and then of course the clip where he says the glass ceiling doesn’t exist. It’s clear to me he didn’t realize the cultural and political ramifications of that stuff in America because he was never really exposed to it growing up in Sweden, and he was a cocky 20 something that thought he knew everything.

          I hope these days he’s realizing how idiotic some of that shit was and is actually trying to use his platform to make his viewers aware of valid issues rather than spouting off about topics he knows nothing about to his viewers who take his word as truth.

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            He also paid some Africans to hold an anti-semitic sign. To prove people will do things for money I think?

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              The entire thesis of that video was “fiver and things like that lead to exploitation of the global poor”, the sign thing was just a catchy clickbait thing.

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                That’s pretty apalling.

                What kind of following sticks with someone who humiliates people just because they could use extra grocery money? Just because he had so much cash that he could take a voyercation to somewhere unfamiliar to do it?

                If he’s come to his senses, fine. Anyway if new users can’t figure out CWs and pronouns… that’s why we have de-fed, block, and filter…

                Maybe someone thought genocide imagery and messaging was a ha ha funny toy. I’m not over it, as someone who deals with hatecrimey stuff on the reg.

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          How are you going to do that advertising using one of their products? He has 100M followers and he’s a multi millionare, he should close his youtube account and move in another platform

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            Good point. People should only advocate for dgoogling on platforms full of people who have already degoogled. It’s stupid to try and reach people still using Youtube.

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          Calling this guy an ass shows that you have no idea who he is. You’re probably the type of person who thinks they’re well informed but exclusively get their info from echo chambers like Lemmy.

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            I mean I don’t really consider him a deplorable person… He was a dumb edgy teen 15 years ago that happened to strike a cord with the overwhelming amount of dumb edgy teens on youtube, and strike it rich. I haven’t paid a ton of attention to him, but from what I saw of his linux and gadget crafting videos, it sounds like he’s grown up a fair amount from his days of scream streaming.

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                Others have pointed out how people keep growing up in their 20s and 30s. But also as a media personality, you can’t ignore the possibility that he’s playing a character on camera. It could legitimately be he just kept acting like his younger self while recording because that pays the bills

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                Valid… but also have to point out he hit big as a celebrity. When you are literally raking in millions of dollars. He was about 21 when he started his channel. and bottom line is, he got views, he got likes, and it turned into real cash. Most of our jobs etc… encourage us to grow up. His job, rewarded him for catering to his base… which of were younger than him.

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                Everyone is a edgy teenager well into their 20s.

                As the joke goes, if your 18 your a child, if your 23 your a teenager, if your 29 your 30, if your 34 your late 20s, if your 35 your 35.

                Most people in most western worlds don’t even get to start being an adult till they are well into their mid 20s, which means they only START growing up at like 24-25.

                It takes years to actually mature. Anyone who understand this has never worked a job that has frequent fresh to the workforce people cycling though frequently.

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                  I was about to respond with this, you’re still in college in your early 20s. Most of us don’t get a four year degree done in actual four years

                  We got junior devs in their late 20s because they were doing grad school until like 28

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              he pretty much “retired” from youtube because of some drama that occurred, very typical of these types youtubers. and suddenly trying to come back as one. at one point he was shilling for youtubes intense aggressive advertisements(but this wasnt what caused his departure), and then his allegedly support of nazis.

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                and then his allegedly support of nazis.

                The nazi one IMO was pretty BS. Largely it came from him playing a game, and commenting that other people were trolling putting up swastika’s etc…

                Which I’ll admit, he handled the criticism poorly, did mostly the wrong things because he found it more of a joke than a real thing. He rightly noted that one of the critics was JK Rowling, who he fairly pointed out had no business calling anyone such. When Charlottsville happened is when he actually gave what I considered a pretty sincere fair apology where he basically noted, "holy shit I thought I was being accused of something that didn’t exist, I didn’t realize that nazi’s are actually still so prevelant in modern society so I wasn’t taking things seriously.

                Now afterwords him dropping the n bomb on a stream was pretty damn bad, though he apologized and admitted it. Still kind of falls into the fact that he’d been paid for years to join in games with a bunch of edgy teenagers, and at the end of the day if you spend too much time with a group of people, you are going to slip up and talk like them.

                Again not calling him a great guy or anything, but I’d say everything in him strikes me as a kid that never grew up (because his life was basically set up encouraging him not to), didn’t understand the weight of a lot of the things he was around, and made a bunch of childish stupid mistakes.

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            If pewdiepie is one of the most deplorable people in the world you know of. You must live in some kind of alternative universe and in paradise.

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          I disagree. Things seem to get worse when the herds move to them. It’s as if things are good precisely because they aren’t there.

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            bro, open your mind for a minute. Privacy is for everyone. And we need masses wanting privacy otherwise nothing changes.

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              I definitely agree with you, but I remember how Digg & then Reddit both went to shit once the masses started to use them. Same with Facebook.

              I feel like if we all spread out between multiple platforms, none will become big enough for the enshitification to hit them.

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                Aha, I understand what you mean. Maybe that’s kind of why fediverse (federation) makes sense. At least with social networks.

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            I think you’re seeing the wrong causation when it comes to enshittification. FOSS licenses prevent that sort of thing from happening. Linux is already, by far and away, the most popular server OS so consumers moving to it isn’t going to make it worse.

            I dunno, maybe be less of a hipster bestie?

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          I’ve never watched him (I hated him when he would just scream at video games) but he seems to be a lot more mature these days. He even posted a video on why you should switch to Linux recently

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      Just throwing this out there, you can open the video and expand the description and there is a button you can click on to view the transcript of the video and then you can just copy that out into a text editor or read it right there

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      He switched to linux a while back. Now he’s trying to switch as much of the rest of his digital life to FOSS/non-profit stuff. He advocates for duckduckgo, firefox, paid email, graphene os, selfhosted vaultwarden, nextcloud, anything but google maps, kodi, etc.

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    That’s very cool indeed – although I dread the moment he starts talking to his followers about Lemmy.

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      That would literally be the best this to happen to this god forsaken platform. There isn’t nearly enough users, diversity of content, or sheer volume to make this place a genuine alternative to Reddit. Getting an influx from a huge youtuber like him means this place might finally get active communities for mainstream hobbies like sports, music, and videogames.

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        Dude, eff that, influx of bullshit from reddit would be nowhere near. It wouldn’t be problem of bullshit. It would be problem of scale. Remember how instances panicked and had to grow at neckbreaking speed during reddit exodus?

        This would be bigger, while at the same time having a lot less long-term benefits because a lot of his audience wouldn’t stick around.

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        I mean, I don’t know of him now… he’s way older and, seems significantly less immature than he was in the past, it’s possible a good portion of his fanbase has also grown to be more tolerable.

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            I think you are massively overestimating how many of his fans would go anywhere, and how long they tag along. I used to play a social deduction game town of Salem, can’t say I know exactly how large the playerbase was… but I’d estimate it on the lower side, probably significantly under 50k. There were a few times Pewdiepie did a video on the game, and yeah, he was a pain in the ass, because he didn’t try to learn the game, so his video was basically him trolling around in the game screaming random stuff, completely ruining things for people who wanted to play the game, and players could basically count on a few days afterwards of, having games ruined by his fans doing the same crap of course. However it certainly wasn’t millions of them, within a few days the game mostly went back to normal… with if anything a slight boost to the number of players, because a handful stuck around and actually learned the game.

            and again this is with much longer ago pewdiepie… way younger fanbase, way larger more active following. Today’s pewdiepie, that’s still following, and I guess bothering to pay attention to his videos on rigging up gadgets with raspberry pi’s, and installing archlinux with hyprland, and apparently this one on getting off google. I’d imagine… the amount of people following him are going to be waay smaller than that, he hasn’t been doing gaming videos in at least a year, seems to be more of basic tech comentary and general lifestyle location things.

            So in short, if he did a lemmy push, first off I’d imagine actually the blip from it being very small. Unless steam charts suddenly show 100 million new archlinux users or something, I can guess his influence today is probably pretty small, and second the type of people he’d attract are probably also drastically different than the edgy teen base we remember him for, and lastly even at his peak of popularity and immaturity, the influx wasn’t quite as big as you are thinking it is.

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      Same, it feels surreal.

      I was typing out in the comments that he should try nextcloud before I finished the video, and towards the end I saw that he was running Nextcloud. Fantastic

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        Yeah this is why it’s so outputting seeing so much praise for him here. I don’t believe he’s ever outright apologized and owned up to what he’s said and done in the past (I could be wrong though?). Last I checked the dude was literally a neo nazi.

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          he has. people just prefer to go on judging. how you supposed to feel good about yourself if the people you hate for hating stopped hating?

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          My wife was a PewDiePie fan from before the slur incident so I’ve loosely seen some of his content over the years. He’s apologized multiple times, and he’s shifted his style significantly multiple times since then.

          Basically in the last few years he’s grown up a ton. He married his girlfriend of a decade or more after earlier refusing marriage, had a baby, emigrated to Japan and now posts tons of creative and day-in-the-life style vlogs

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            Didn’t he stream a dead body in a Japanese suicide forest shortly after moving to Japan?

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              That was Logan Paul, and actually the Paul brothers’ antics actually greatly delayed Pewd’s immigration as the Japanese government actually stopped granting new visas to any social media personalitiws for some time after the Paul incidents.

              If I remember correctly he wasn’t able to immigrate until mid-2020 thanks to the Paul Borthers’ lack of respect for anyone

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        He got backlash from his own fans from all edgy and toxic jokes. I remember some of his Indian fans are angry for his PewDiePie vs T-series stuff (T-series: Indian music company).

        I think around 2019, he apologized and recognized all the edginess he did, and promised to do better.

        For the last five years, all of his content are basically wholesome family stuff or creative activities. Even his recent art journey video are widely shared among young art communities that’s not even his fans.

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        I really don’t get how so many people here are so happy that a Nazi is using Linux and doesn’t like Google anymore. That’s not the kind of clown I’d want representing or being a spokesperson for my interests and it’s really making me second guess the people here.

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            Might wanna take your own advice. For example, instead of making a drive by shit post, you could have done what another commenter did and actually explain why people are on board with this guy. That person’s comment had me reconsider my position. Your comment just makes you look like an ass.

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      There’s no redemption arc because he literally never did anything wrong. His content was always family friendly

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        Is it though? I never paid any attention to him, so I only know that one time he made some kids make a sign with heil Hitler or something like that (which from what I’ve read was just a joke in bad taste, he isn’t a nazi or major racist). Otherwise, I haven’t heard anything bad about him, he was just never someone I cared to know more about and watch, seemed to be mostly for kids. Please, correct anything I’ve said if I’m wrong.

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          He has had some serious run ins with controversy like the bridge incident and a shooter co-opting the T-Series fake beef but beyond that it’s basically people reacting seriously to him aping Filthy Frank, in my opinion I think he’s made good enough on not shooting himself in the foot now, mostly probably cuz he’s a Dad now and trying to ape Filthy Frank is too much effort.

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      started with minecraft & redstone, now linux & degoogling, can we extrapolate that in some years pewd’s gonna start hrt lol

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      Someone on Lemmy Linux pointed out his past in detail, and I agree he was DEFINETLY going through the far right pipeline.

      However, he never continued it, never delved into it farther, never pushed that crap further (the dirtiest thing was hosting I think Shapiro for meme review, which while very bad, at least didn’t keep that shit up. Do wish he’d delete the video though), and seems to have changed paths after getting into actual philosophy. He’s never been a politician who’s destroyed people’s lives or a billionaire or called for people to be harmed, either.

      If we hold people like him to the same likeness of people like Musk or Shapiro etc, progressiveness will lose the cultural war to fascism. By equating any potential ally into an enemy, you only destroy your cause, and certainly only help fascists far more.

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      If you don’t let people make mistakes, change, and grow, you’re living a petty, sad life.

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      The only people who have called this guy a nazi are terminally online far left jackoffs who get all their information from other jackoffs in the same echo chambers.

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    Three R’s to deGoogling: Reduce, replace, remove.

    I would say start by changing your browser and search engine (lots of options out there today), and then set up your own domain for email hosting so you can try different providers.

    There isn’t another YouTube with all that content out there, so that one is tough, but you don’t have to 100% de google, 50% is still good. 15% is still good.

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      Your own domain, but you’re safer not hosting your own email servers in general. Just wanted to be clear for anyone reading this. If your mail server is down you don’t get mail 🫠

      I ended up using a service that isn’t Google for that with my own domain

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        Wish more creators would move to Nebula. I joined on Grady from Practical Engineering’s recommendation. His stuff is great.

        I haven’t quite figured out how to use PeerTube yet.

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      Your own domain for email hosting is a massive pain in the ass. Have you not run into a million problems with other hosting providers refusing you for possibly spam?

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        Self hosting an email server is a pain in the ass and I don’t really recommend it.

        Buying your own domain and using it in whatever email provider you want is very easy and gives you ownership over the email address. You may switch providers freely without needing anyone else to do anything.

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          I wasn’t self hosting. I was just talking about your own domain, which caused me serious problems when flagged for spam.

          Edit: I’m guessing it’s easier nowadays but I still carry that pain lol

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            That’s not an issue with a custom domain name, but one of the other parts you run into, SPF and DKIM dns settings being correct and the reputation of whatever SMTP server’s ip address is. No one spam-bins based just on random domain names, or every business would freak out. You can also use your own domain on Google, Microsoft, or Apples ecosystems, not that you need to, there are plenty of providers that will host your email. I like runbox.

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              Oh shit is that what the issue was??? Thank you for explaining! I thought it was literally blacklisted like that. I told those worthless dumbfucks to whitelist my domain and that shit just kept happening—and they made me do all the work every time. It was exhausting and frustrating. I’ll look into runbox, thanks again.

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                I wonder if there might be some super common spam tlds like .xyz or .ru or something, but generally, yeah, custom domain isn’t the issue. Some other options are Migadu, mailbox.org, mxroute, and Tuta all seem like decent companies. A lot of others “also do” email hosting, like porkbun and OVH. Plenty of companies host their email with all these companies and have mostly clear sailing without being spam binned.

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        No, not I don’t self host my email which is where a lot of the trouble comes from

        I don’t remember having any issues with it ever. That was a concern so I did slowly transition to the custom domain

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        Didn’t try to host a domain myself yet, but having it set up with Proton has given me zero problems thus far.

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        Whatever name fits your fancy. Go with solid registrars like Namecheap or cloudflare.

        Once you get your domain, you can use most any email provider to handle mail for that domain. Fastmail is really good. Or proton if you want the encryption.

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          That’s pretty much my setup, it is not super hard to get working, it’s basically just copying and pasting the magic numbers they give you

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          Gotta also recommended porkbun for a registrar, had a great experience with then.

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            Porkbun + runbox here. Domain and email together cost less than $30 a year. You can use the domain for free with GitHub pages or cloudflare for a free website too.

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              I personally picked Mailfence, but I saw both runbox and mailfence are really good. Tho Mailfence is a bit more expensive

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        Get something on .com or .net. Vanity tlds will piss off reputation services. And make sure you set up spf/dkim

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          Other reason is the renew fees for special tlds are so unpredictable. Com is surprisingly cheap to renew.

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      set up your own domain for email hosting

      cannot recommend this enough!

      1. register your domain through something like porkbun
      2. get an account with someone like mxroute.com (i am a fan, but not an affiliate or anything)
      3. enjoy pain-free email for the rest of your life
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    I’m done with Google! Watch me rant on Google’s Youtube! Earns me money!

    So… yeah.

    Why are we giving neonazis attention, again?