I was hoping to go all in with Jellyfin, but it’s been absolutely maddening to try to get it to play nice with my curated library. It just makes too many dumb assumptions about artist metadata.

Any other suggestions?

EDIT: I installed Navidrome, then poured over the documentation for the config file and micromanaged every setting. This has allowed me to get damn near close to the exact unobtrusive behavior I had hoped for.

EDIT 2: AFA mobile client goes, I’d absolutely consider paying for Symphonium, if it didn’t seem to require my having a Google Play account (fuck that). So instead I’m trying Tempo.

  • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Careful curation of mp3 tags and a short leash.

    My Plex and Jellyfin libraries are the same files and they are both handled identically because I don’t let them think about the files.

    I used a tool to export my Plex playlists as XML, then wrote a little python to convert them into M3U, jellyfin recognizes the M3 use and just makes playlists.

    • pHr34kY@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Oh, you have 10 random singles in the same directory? That must be an album all from the same artist!

    • Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgOPEnglish
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      1 month ago

      > be Jellyfin

      > see a track in an album with a “… feat. …” artist tag

      “This must be a completely different artist than the album artist!”

      > create somehow fucking immutable new metadata

      • gccalvin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 month ago

        I also use Jellyfin. Before being able to set custom tag delimiters, you had to ensure your music artists and album artists ID3 tags were correct. I believe it used a ‘;’ to separate multiple artists. Now with custom delimiters you can set your own. You may be able to try and fix things by setting ‘feat.’ as a custom tag.

        Ultimately, I would recommend just using mp3tag and spending a few minutes setting up an action that replaces ‘feat.’ with a delimiter, such as a ‘|’. Run it through your current library and you should be good.

        • Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgOPEnglish
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          1 month ago

          Thank you for the info. I might try this, however I’m already having a 10x better experience now that I’ve set up Navidrome, and then tried the Symphonium client.

          • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            1 month ago

            I did this for a while, and only switched back to Jellyfin/Finamp while degoogling (needed for paid version). I thought it was definitely worth it while I was using it. I also listen to music on the TV and Jellyfin handles it better than other options I tried (including side-loading symfonium).

            I currently use a separate music library manager on my server to organize my music collection, then Jellyfin just does the server work.

            I think you’ll be very happy with the setup you are using.

            • curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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              1 month ago

              Personally I just run both.

              Navidrome is what I would call the daily driver, but since its just a share that JF can also see, for TV playback its JF just like you.

              But I’m also a stickler for metadata so I don’t often run into issues. When I do see something come up thats not right, I correct manually. Which wasn’t happening very often until lidarr had the metadata issue with musicbrainz, though the past few months its been a manual effort.

  • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Jellyfin.
    On the phone it’s only usable at home because I don’t have a VPN in place.
    But I could stream via the web ui which is not convenient.

    • jhdeval@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Another vote for navidrome. I tried substreamer on android ibdid not like the search. I use symfonium easy interface let’s me randomize in many ways.

      On a side question anybody have suggestions for automatically creating genre based m3u files? I would like to setup “radio” like stations but adding my music to a playlist.

      • N0x0n@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Not sure this is what you are looking for but navidrome has smart playlists, which is a small configuration file you can add to your navidrome and will automagically create a playlist in your navidrome based on your config.

    • ctry21@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      1 month ago

      +1 for Navidrome. As simple as pasting the album into the directory and it sorts the rest. I use subtune on my phone to access it and it works great.

    • roofuskit@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      There really isn’t any decent alternative. I can run 4 Navidrome servers along side each other using less resources than a single copy of the alternatives. It just works and does almost everything you could want.

      • nfreak@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Navidrome even supports multiple libraries now. I was using 2 instances for a bit for my wife and I, but now it’s all in one.

        • roofuskit@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 month ago

          I didn’t realize they had updated. That’s great! I knew it was on the timeline but it works so well even with multiple instances I hadn’t been watching for it.

          • nfreak@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            1 month ago

            Yep! They released it like a week after I just set up a second instance lmao

            The only catch I noticed is that the default “/music” library can’t be changed, so I set up my directories in the container like:

            • /user1/music
            • /user1/discover
            • /user2/music
            • /user2/discover
            • /shared

            All 5 are set up as separate libraries, and I keep "/music/ in the container mounted to an empty directory. The discover folders are populated when Explo runs each week, that’s a whole project of its own.

    • nfms@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      1 month ago

      I’m using airsonic with symfonium, gotta check Gonic (it’s been mentioned twice in the comments)

  • mrdown@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    I just use my local music player musicolet. Never going to switch unless another player alñow resuming last songs of any playlist

  • Jason2357@lemmy.caEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Lots of interesting discussion, but I’ll add I’ve been plying with https://www.music-assistant.io/

    Integrates all sorts of backends, including everything mentioned here, with streaming to just about any device. Reminds me of MPD back in the day, or at least the promise of it.

  • Domi@lemmy.secnd.meEnglish
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    1 month ago

    I use Jellyfin but I download all my songs from Tidal, Qobuz or Deezer and tag them automatically right then and there in a clean format so Jellyfin does not have to guess at all.

    I also have some automatic checks in place to convert incorrect metadata to a proper format. Like moving artists from the title (feat. Somebody else) to the artists tag Somebody; Somebody else and a bunch more.

    Together with Finamp on desktop and mobile everything is pretty much working as expected.

  • Suzune@ani.socialEnglish
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    1 month ago

    At the moment I’m trying out Ampache. It seems to have more features than Gonic.

  • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    One last comment on your edit: Tempo is great, and I used that as well, plus it’s open source. The symfonium dev is actually pretty cool about helping you work around Google if you want to buy it another way, but it has to be activated manually by the dev on each device. I just didn’t want the hassle.

    I’d probably go with Tempo if I were still using navidrome since it’s open source.