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    I love everything he has been doing recently. He is a master of story telling and goes surprisingly far into solving technology challenges, while keeping it fun and real. What an amazing transformation really

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      He did already have a background vocationally in this space so it wasn’t a transformation from nothing. Great stuff nonetheless!

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    Having such a big influencer as Pewds shout out selfhosting, ad blocking and general privacy improvements is a huge win, no matter what your opinion is of him.

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      What concerns me is the implicit association people will make between him and FOSS, and anything they believe about one will carry to the other.

      I have to assume there are already people who hear “Linux” and think “ugh, I wouldn’t touch that with a 10ft pole because I don’t want anything to do with Pewdiepie”. Similarly, if he says something dumb next week, and half his audience abandons him, they’ll likely have a negative outlook on FOSS going forward.

      Either way, I don’t believe FOSS’ staying power comes from meteoric rises following a fad, it comes from a natural immunity to enshittification over time. On the scale of a few of decades, FOSS seems like it’s struggling against proprietary solutions. But just like the general concept of political democracy, I think on the scale of centuries it will become the clear, time-tested, least-bad option. But I digress.

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        Eh, don’t worry about it. If people are seeking out Linux for their own valid reasons, they’ll take what they need and leave what they don’t.

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        it comes from a natural immunity to enshittification over time.

        ugh, tell me that if this bullshit with systemd and age verification isn’t true.

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          It’s already solved: FOSS means I can always fork/build my own package that does what I want. That’s why I mean it’s immune.

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      I’m always open to somebody’s redemption arc, even if I dislike them. The great thing about people is that we are capable of growth, even if not all of us always grow in the right direction, we always can.

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      And having a youtube video on lemmy frontpage is a huge ad for google and a missed opportunity for an open alternative to become more popular

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        Dunno about “huge ad” exactly… There arent that many of us here lol.

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          Not huge maybe but for what i care a big smack in the face to this open source and decentralized platform.

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      Her helped usher in this new enshittification. He was the Trojan horse. First one to reach a million

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          You think not having total control of an organization means he’s free of blame. Would you say that your MAGA uncle doesn’t control Trump so isn’t responsible for his actions.

          Pewdiepie is literally called an influencer. He warped what many young people belief they can become today and that belief is what ushered in a world of influencers chasing the all mighty dollar. That has given all these corporations fuel to create content and that content is stealing our data, eliminating data scarcity and used to influence politics.

          He’s not the cause of it but he was an inflection point and could have went in a different direction to push kids to reject this new paradigm. Instead he was the face of it.

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            You think not having total control of an organization means he’s free of blame

            I don’t, that’s something you made up about me in your head. I think that YouTube’s business execs would always lead it to where we are now.

            He warped what many young people belief they can become today and that belief is what ushered in a world of influencers chasing the all mighty dollar

            He made gameplay videos. I think that’s the most benign form of “influencing” there can be. I think there are much more damaging channels that had way more sway in shaping this new generation.

            Again, I’m not saying he’s a saint but I do think he’s ultimately insignificant when looking at the causes of and reasoning behind youtube’s enshittification. And I don’t think he would ever go a different direction, just doesn’t seem like the type.

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              He laid the groundwork for those shitty influencer. He had the attention of young people who looked up to him. The minute they saw he could make millions by becoming the walking embodiment of a Nascar fender he set the attitudes and aspirations of a generation.

              Would YouTube continue without him? Yes of course.

              Could he have pushed back and created helped influence a generation of kids to reject the selling out of themselves to this influencer culture? Absolutely.

              There were a few influencers in those early days that could have changed things or at least maintained the zeitgeist that we had then. Nobody did. That money was too good. Everything after he made that first million would change how the internet worked.

              He was the inflection point. He could have impacted everything going forward. He could have told kids that these companies were stealing their data. That they were soliciting gamers to use as Trojan horses for what would eventually make everything worse.

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                To call him the inflection point, as if this wasn’t a more complex change emerging over time, is ridiculous. You are clearly speaking from an outside perspective. He has never come close to flashing his wealth or showing a ‘lifestyle’, anything that has came definitively after his peak. The influencer issue was also far more complex. Instagram was the central breeding ground for those types, and twitter was still conversationally relevant.

                Even if he was the inflection point, what now? You expect someone at the center of things to realize their unique position, and then realize the most morally correct thing (to you) to do about it? Patently ridiculous, hindsight is 20/20 when it comes to larger cultural movements like influencers.

                Calling pewdiepie an influencer shows how little you understand that sphere. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

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                  What is an influencer?

                  Since you said I’m wrong, what is the inflection point that I’m describing?

                  Did I say he flashed his wealth?

                  I do expect people to be aware of their impact, directly and indirectly, especially on kids. The more people you can potentially impact, the greater the responsibility to be aware.

                  Is data collection, exploiting children to sell products, and the consequences of profit-seeking something that we weren’t aware of at the time PewDiePie became famous?

                  I agree PewDiePie didn’t sell things to children. He didn’t need to. He was the product. I’m against commercial pressure on the internet, which seems like a radical concept now. PewDiePie didn’t need to hawk products to kids i know he did a good job with that. But he was the product. He was the point at which kids saw they could become a gamer and help commercial sites collect people’s attention and sell it to advertisers. That model is what broke everything. It turned the internet into cable television 2.0.

                  We already had corporate-approved media that was just a way to sell our attention. The internet, for a brief moment, was something for us. It was as close to a gift economy as we could get. It was the difference between a lawn sprayed with glyphosate to kill anything that wasn’t good old American Texas bluegrass devoid of originality, beauty, or color but looking neat and a lawn allowed to grow wild, full of weeds but also flowers, plants, and life.

                  PewDiePie wouldn’t have been the only one to make money, but he was the first to hit that milestone, and everything changed after that.

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      A win for who? Sounds like he will deter some people and attract others based on whether they think checks notes anti-Semitism is a deal breaker. Jesus Christ this is pathetic.

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        Antisemitism, based on that one clip where he deliberately did something controversial to check boundaries of freelancers? Perhaps it wasn’t the brightest idea he’s ever had to upload this but framing him as such is a bit much I think. Like with his bridge-incident, I don’t think anyone would seriously call him racist for that.

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          He’s too dumb to be intentionally racist but he’s a great spoke person for your cause. 🙄

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              You have two masters and one is problematic. It’s nice that your master said kind things about the other, but you still have two masters.

              Edit: I don’t follow the guy, I only know that this is a good thing only IF y’all convince others PewDiePie is a good guy actually.

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                Bro are you schizophrenic? What are you talking about, I have no “masters”. And I don’t say that pewdiepie is a “good guy”, I just said that I wouldn’t judge him based on such minor things.

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                  It’s an analogy that illustrates that you are doing his PR work in order to serve an unrelated cause. Is that clear enough to understand or do you want to send people with butterfly nets after me?

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            “Too dumb to be intentionally racist”? I want to understand your comment more as I feel most people who ‘choose’ to be racist are pretty stupid. I can only imagine exceptional cases like politicians or leader figures who use fear and hate to get more power.

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              I think you make a better point than I did. I am responding to someone looking at a racist act and insisting it wasn’t racist but stupid.

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          Yeah like how many years ago was that? Lets just believe people can’t better themselves and hold things against them forever. What an awful reality that would be

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            Friend… in a now deleted instagram post he was caught with a “international jewish conspiracy” book in the background.

            • How is having 1 book on ur bookshelf enough to condemned a man. I have mein Kampf on my bookshelf sitting right next the communists manifesto and 1984. Does that make me a communist or a Nazi? How can u hope to defeat an ideology for which you do not understand?

              “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.” - Sun Tzu (The Art of War)

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              So ok he owns a book about some conspiracy theory, I didn’t know that. He read a lot and even talked about books some years ago. Who knows how he got the book, if he even read it, if he agrees with it’s content. Maybe he didn’t and still doesn’t want to get rid of it for some reason or another. If he would actively talk about it or so it would be a different story.

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              that is not a “jewish” conspiracy book. iv read it and yes "enslavement is a strong word for it. but it does illuminate a few patterns on the growth of economy and abuses within them over history.

              and also if it carried no weight then why is it widely banned.

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                The author is a god damn holocaust denier. Propoganda doesn’t always outright state it’s goals my friend.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Goodson

                He is the embodiment of “jews control the banks and the world” argument.

                EDIT: Verbatim in the fucking wikipedia:

                “Despite his career, Goodson was also an active commentator with regards to the problems of the central banking system, writing the book A History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind, published by blackhouse publishing limited. In this book, the author narrates a brief history of finance and central banking in the Western world, from the Roman Republic to the 2008 financial crisis and maintains the existence of an international jewish conspiracy to control nations through banking, led mainly by the rothschild family from the 19th century onward.”

                You wanna correct your statement on it not being about that now?

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              Damn which one is this? The one in the middle? If so thats quite recent bc I follow his content and his pc build is pretty new. Crazy conspiracy theory nutjob content in there. Its a pretty huge red flag since it aligns with the patterns in his edgy phase (during which I didn’t actively follow him). Makes me sad to think I might have had a lot better image of him as a person in my head as what he really is. Thank you for informing me. I mean technically he could just be curious in obscene conspiracy theorists. Like people can read religious text while being atheist or read Mein Kampf as a historic artifact. This book does seem more fringe tho. As long as he is not promoting this kind of belief. Makes me think if all this together makes a different light of him tho. Maybe he owns the book from back then and didn’t throw it out. But he moved from the Uk to Japan so I still wonder why he would’ve kept it.

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                I wouldn’t assume that he supports any of the book content just from having it on the bookshelf. You are not a nazi for having Mein Kampf on the bookshelf (worst example I can think of and it would be uncomfortable at most). If all you have on bookshelf is nazi/conspiracy propaganda though then it’s another topic

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                  He’s read and reviewed all sorts of books, but as far as I know the only questionable one of those was the first Jordan Peterson thing (which he did criticize as well), so I don’t know how a single book he’s never talked about would flag him as anything. Sure, if he actively tried to preach what’s written in it or encourage people to read that stuff, but I agree that just owning some book is a pretty poor basis for accusations.

                  He has the platform, so if he’s a raging racist or antisemitist, why isn’t he using that for preaching those then?

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                he fled to japan until all the drama blew over the years, most people forgot about him and latched on to the enxt big influencer, mr beast and the likes.

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      It is true, I think so too. I never really watched any of his content, his racist and toxic comments in the past make it hard to recommend it to anyone, but his two or three tech videos were decent for a normie targeting normies. In total, he is bug enough, that I think its a net profit for the cause.

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        his racist and toxic comments in the past make it hard to recommend it to anyone

        He mended his ways, and didn’t do it again. What else do you want him to do, to atone for his sins?

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      I don’t think there’s any irony in people trying to make money with their work. And I’d much much MUCH rather have them insert multiple sponsors in a video that I can just skip over than worry about ads and their constant tracking.

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        The irony is making boatloads of money and then pulling up the ladder behind him while he can make his money anyhow, because he’s already got a critical base under him.

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      I don’t think he’s as dumb as he seems in some videos. His persona and mannerisms are very much a pan-Scandinavian thing. To me it’s a throwback to the early 00’s, when we filled our brains with plenty of Jackass, Blink 182 and Eric Cartman.

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        His Filthy Frank/Pink Guy aping years are definitely evident of that lol, beastmaster64 swimming into the sea to catch a Pokemon made for some funny moments.

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      What a silly thing to virtue signal about.

      “Hey everyone, I, too, know the meme about calling pewdiepie a nazi… why is he a nazi? Uhhhh cuz he is… cuz my other favorite quirky youtuber (and arent I cool for knowing him) hbomberguy said so in a viral vid 10 years ago… and that vid totally wasn’t capitalizing on pewdiepie being the largest youtuber channel in the world for any sensationalism and drama… or clipped in bad faith for a viral audience…”

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          Oh, yea, thats me, big nazi bootlicker.

          There are actual nazis around and you dilute it to be meaningless when you compare real harmful actual nazis to fucking pewdiepie. No one should take you seriously. Log off.

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            No one should take you seriously. Log off.

            Shocker that you actually handle online discussion with the desire to simply remove the people that you don’t agree with.

            Much like a Nazi.

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    The people hating on him clearly haven’t seen much of his content lately. He’s grown up and has his life together pretty well now. If you think nobody is deserving of a second chance then you do you, nobody is forcing you to watch his content. I honestly love his redemption arc and I’ve watched some of his content lately and really enjoyed it. And good for him that he likes self hosting and is doing all these pc DIY projects.

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      he dint really accept his/or dealt with the consequences, he merely fled to japan to avoid and waited til all the drama died down, he mostly isnt on a redeeming arc, everyone just forgot about him.

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        People moved on long before he moved to Japan, or at least most people, there are still some that hate him for a mistake he made many years ago.

        People can change and grow up and deserve second changes, I grew up racist just because of my environment, but as I got older I grew out of that and saw that it’s wrong and hurts and divides people.

        Am I also unremarkable because of what I used to be like before my brain was fully formed?

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        Over the years I think I care less about some public apology or statement to accept that a creator has moved past old behavior (I assume you’re talking about the bridge, I don’t really follow PewDiePie).

        We see too many fake apologies and if it’s been some time, apologizing just gives an opportunity for viewers to dogpile when someone is trying to move past something.

        I think if it’s been a few years and he’s clearly shown to have grown past it, that’s enough for me. You never really know what a content creator’s private beliefs are just how they choose to use their public persona.

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        I’ve never seen piewdiepie before his Linux journey. What did he do and what consequences does he deserve?

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          He did/said a bunch of racist shit in videos/streams.

          In 2019 someone livestreamed themself committing a hate-crime/mass shooting, killing 51 Muslim people in New Zealand. The shooter began his livestream with “subscribe to Pewdiepie!”

          That seemed to be a rude awakening for Pewdiepie, and I believe that he’s stopped with the racist shit.

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            What racist things did Pewdiepie do/ say himself though? I don’t think it’s fair to attribute someone using his name to commit terrorism to him.

            Similarly the guy who shot trump was wearing a demolitionranch shirt.

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              He’d use the N-word, and make “jokes” like paying people to make a sign that said “death to all Jews”.

              I assume that he was trying to be edgy, but it was a little too far.

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                Just want to point out that he used the N word once, got hugely criticised for it, and didn’t do it again.

                Not trying to defend nor minimise any of his actions, btw. Take from that as you will. Just want to clarify, as in my opinion your wording kind of implies he did it regularly.

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            Someone also defaced a holocaust, but that just tangential, he was an integral part of the alt-right pipeline radicalizing normies

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        he dint really accept his/or dealt with the consequences,

        1. He publically apologized for it (no ukulele though, which is how you know it’s a fake apology)
        2. He didn’t do it again

        What else would you want him to do?

        And what consequences are you specifically talking about?

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    Self-hosting is a literal addiction. lol
    I started with just an invidious instance and now I have my own audiobooks app that I’m also turning into a navidrome client. Did I say jellyfin and pihole, too?

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      Yeah I started my journey with an old laptop but I found the precariousness of it all too stressful, always in more fear I’m gonna lose my photo library so just stuck with the cloud in the end. Nice knowing it’s there for when I need it

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        Damn. That’s a lot of money. I actually didn’t spend anything on the hardware. I have a friend who gave me a dell optiplex he was about to throw away and a 2 bay Synology NAS with 8TB storage already on it when he upgraded. Been using them for 3 years now. The optiplex now runs Debian server, and the SynNAS is mounted to it as a mass storage for my stuff.

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      I’m curious, is self-hosting invidious even worth it? Youtube can still see every video you pull through, right, and now it’s linked to a static ip address associated with you?

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        I do it for iPhone and iPad for my wife (and me occasionally when I use an iPad) to watch YouTube since the official app is riddled with ads and a browser isn’t a good experience for her. She’s been loving Yattee.

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    Good on him for this. I started self-hosting a couple years back, so my “tech fence” is already fairly complete, with a few glaring omissions, still a WIP.

    I do wish he got someone to provide links to guides or wiki pages, but I understand that making people go out and search for things is also important, even if it’s a simple task to search on google/github for open source projects.

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    Wasn’t his n*zi prank and all his racist shit who began the youtube downhill ?

    I genuine asking, i’m not from u.s. and never watched a single video from him in all my life, i only knew him from have the youtube channel with most suscribers and the clip on PUBG bridge.

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      He’s not from the US either. But yeah, he’s an unapologetic lunatic. Nice for him to be on the right side of something with his large audience though.

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        Not sure why is he lunatic, but he definitely apologised for and acknowledged what he’s done multiple times

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      Why the fuck are you censoring Nazi. You can say fucking Nazi online. You can say fuck if you want to.

      Why the FUCK are you bowing to the corpo overlords.

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            I don’t understand the mechanism. I could see a benefit for an advertiser if there was self censorship for criticising that advertiser, but what is the connection between that and self censorship for the word nazi? Or is it another mechanism?

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              The general atmosphere is “better” meaning the advertiser sees his “content” amongst more friendly surroundings

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                So there is less advertising in Australia and the UK than the US because they say the word cunt more?

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                  The major content websites deprioritise Australian and UK content outside of their respective countries.

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              Advertisers don’t want to be viewed next to or adjacent to “problematic” content. Hence no swearing in the first 5 or so minutes in a YouTube video (right after add have played), self censoring words like cunt and suicide so algorithms don’t deprioritise you (again, because platforms make money from ads, so they won’t promote videos that aren’t as friendly).

              It’s all in the service to appease advertisers, and they require platforms to roll out the red carpet wherever they tread.

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      yea thats why he fled to JAPAN for like 5+years, and then he sorta of trying to come back through his vlogs, im guessing his family vlog channel wasnt enough so he pivoted to this in tech(looking for the next grift), he definitely misses that fame and money. yea he fled to japan avoid his consequences of being anti-semitic, if you fled to another country where the drama doesnt reach you, it means you dint learn your lesson.

      its the same as the asian influencers i used to follow that fled to FACEBOOK to avoid controversy(mysogyny and MAGAT-Y) on reddit, where they can control the narrative better.